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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 2386289, member: 112&quot;]You&#039;re making an assumption there, I never said &quot;none can&quot;. My question was how could all of those have survived mint red - key word all, as in a million or more of them. </p><p><br /></p><p>Of course some could, some do, some did - but not a million or more of them. And especially not the large numbers of those that are 100 or more years old. And we&#039;ve (meaning the forum) discussed all of this before, ad infinitum. Including, and you&#039;re old enough to remember this Mike, how for decades collectors struggled and experimented with finding ways to keep copper coins mint red in rolls, like wrapping the coins in a layer of aluminum foil and then re-inserting them into the roll. They tried all sorts of things, if you could think of it, they tried it. Including all efforts to keep individual coins mint red. Most efforts failed miserably, which I&#039;m sure you recall as well. The point is, copper coins don&#039;t just stay mint red, they never have, unless you get very lucky. Which of course is why collectors experimented in the first place.</p><p><br /></p><p>But even those experiments didn&#039;t take place until recent history, say starting in the &#039;50&#039;s and &#039;60&#039;s. Before that, it really wasn&#039;t a matter for concern, at least not for most. And modern storage methods that we have had since the &#039;60&#039;s on, they didn&#039;t even exist prior to that, and most not until well after that. You&#039;ll remember Mike that even in the &#039;60s, (and I started collecting in 1960) probably 99% of collectors used either paper envelopes or paper/cardboard albums and folders for their coins. And we all know what those did to coins, let alone copper coins. Even vinyl flips didn&#039;t come along until later, let alone archival flips or other storage holders.</p><p><br /></p><p>So are there copper coins that are 50 years old, significant numbers of them, that are still mint red ? Yes of course. But they are only so because those who own them, in most cases anyway, made an effort to keep them that way - and some got lucky. Most did not simply because copper is so reactive. </p><p><br /></p><p>As for rolls, and yeah we&#039;ve discussed this too, they did not even become commonly used until the 1930&#039;s. So there were no large quantities of copper coins in rolls until at least then. And very few of those survived mint red.</p><p><br /></p><p>My primary point in all of this is that contrary to popular belief, copper coins can be successfully dipped and returned to mint red. Do you or do you not agree with that Mike ? A simple yes or no is I all I ask.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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