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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;jester3681, post: 2425207, member: 53130&quot;]Story 1 - NGC: Bought a number of tokens from a well known dealer out of a well known collection. All 2x2 cardboard flips were in the handwriting of the original collector, I had all bills of sale, and the dealer and I had a conversation with NGC as I submitted. In the 11th hour, they would not pedigree the tokens. This I kind of get, because the tokens were not holdered, but still kind of a bummer.</p><p><br /></p><p>Story 2 - PCGS: Submitted a coin to cross over that was holdered in NGC plastic. The coin had previously been sold at Hertiage (while in the NGC holder, which was clearly visible with the certificate number in the auction images). The auction noted (as many do) the pedigree, which included not only the owner, but also Robert Vlack as a dealer of the coin. PCGS would not recognize the pedigree because it was not already noted on the label.</p><p><br /></p><p>I do have to say, I&#039;m not bashing either company. Both have been great to work with, although I use PCGS much more frequently because coins in my private collection all get Secure holders with TrueView. But it is very tough to get them to acknowledge something for a label that isn&#039;t already on the label.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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