How to tell if Silver is Fake?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Camreno, Sep 19, 2013.

  1. Billyo

    Billyo New Member

    HI Mike,
    Would you know the copper makeup of The 1944 Pennies? I have a 1943 steel Penny and a 1944 Penny which looks almost the same in composition and color as the Steel one except that the 1944 is non-magnetic. Were there other metals back then that were used other than copper?
     
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  3. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    You really need to start your own thread or threads, this is like interrupting someone's conversation...welcome to CoinTalk though.
     
  4. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Yes make new threads, but if your 43 and 44 "steel" cents are identical then they're probably both plated
     
  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Your 1944 is most likely plated. Best way to be sure is to put it to a magnet and see if it sticks or not. There are very few transitional errors where some Zinc plated steel planchets were left over from 1943 and were used to mint 1944's... very very rare and need to be authenticated.
     
  6. Billyo

    Billyo New Member

    Sorry for the interruptions guys, I new at this. I appreciate all your help. I will start a new thread as you say. Thanks again.
     
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  7. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Well-Known Member

    A non silver Ike Dollar contains nickel which is magnetic, we are talking of a Rare Earth Magnet (Neodymium) for testing silver not a normal magnet.
    I use one everyday and it works.
     
  8. coining around

    coining around New Member

    I am talking about a rare earth magnet as well, one of the strongest available. It will display the same properties on pure silver and a non silver ike dollar, which means a visual confirmation of diamagnetism using the rare earth magnet test is useless in determining if your coin or bar is actually pure silver.
     
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  9. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Well-Known Member

    The test is not for pure silver, it is to test to see if a coin is silver or fake, very few of the worlds coins are pure silver, mostly 92.5% or 90% or lower.
     
  10. coining around

    coining around New Member

    Whether it is bullion bars at 99.9% silver, or a 99.9% round, or a 90% percent silver coin, the point is that the rare earth magnet test will not confirm that your coin, bar, or round, has any silver at all in it at all, given that it displays the same properties on other metals with no silver content. Unless it sticks to what you are testing like glue, it is non conclusive as it could have silver in it, or some other metal that has diamagnetic properties.
     
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  11. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Well-Known Member

    I was at an auction last year and saw a 1867 Hong Kong dollar which should be 90% silver, it looked suspect, I performed the rare earth magnet test on it in front of the auctioneer, the magnet slid off like it was on a frozen lake.
    It was a fake with no silver content.
    I had a sterling silver Crown in my pocket that is used as a test piece, the magnet slid off very slowly as it should on a genuine silver coin.
    The auctioneer was so impressed he cancelled the auction and gave me the fake to take away.
    That was a good enough test for me.

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  12. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    But it close to a good magnet and see if the 1944 cent JUMPS to the magnet! A steel 1944 cent will jump, a nickel plated copper 1944 could still stick to it but it won't jump to it.
     
  13. Lmk

    Lmk New Member

    Hi I’m new I am just in the same boat as you I have a few 1943 steel wheat penny’s and one that’s is identical to the 43’s but the date is 1944-D. Can anyone please give me some onsite. I have so many more goodies please anything
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  14. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Pictures needed.
    Clear pictures. Does your 1944 stick to a magnet?

    And.. The correct word is Pennies not penny's
     
  15. Jusanog

    Jusanog New Member

    I have to
     
  16. Lmk

    Lmk New Member

    Yes it sticks to s magnet
     

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  17. Lmk

    Lmk New Member

    Are these good enough
     

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  18. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Could be a 'short circuit......

     
  19. Lmk

    Lmk New Member

    How is that test gonna work if it’s magnetic it’s not going to slide
     
  20. Lmk

    Lmk New Member

    What about by weight 2.7 is what their supposed to weigh (steel wheat penny) right?
     
  21. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    See above post......
     
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