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<p>[QUOTE="Roerbakmix, post: 7939787, member: 100731"][USER=89970]@Fugio1[/USER], this is a difficult coin to clean. Not because of the encrustation, which will dissolve easily in sodium thiosulphate, but because of the lustrous yellow patina. </p><p><br /></p><p>Immersing the coin in sodium thiosulphate would definitely affect the toning: the coin will turn dark grey to black. See: <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/hieronymus-of-syracuse-restoration-of-a-valuable-coin.365640/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/hieronymus-of-syracuse-restoration-of-a-valuable-coin.365640/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/hieronymus-of-syracuse-restoration-of-a-valuable-coin.365640/</a> </p><p>In this thread, I restore a 10 Litra piece of Hieron (which sold for $1100 at CNG, if I remember correctly). The effect on that coin was dramatic (but expected): it turned black entirely. As I've explained in other posts, this black deposition can be removed easily, but the overall aspect of the coin will be different. </p><p><br /></p><p>Note that this deposition will easily dissolve, as mentioned. I classify this as 'granular with sharp borders':</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1374010[/ATTACH] </p><p>which is the same deposit as on the coin of Hieron in the beforementioned thread, and also the same as in this thread: <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/cleaning-a-sceatta.370033/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/cleaning-a-sceatta.370033/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/cleaning-a-sceatta.370033/</a> (second post):</p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/upload_2020-11-20_9-55-16-png.1205787/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p>after:</p><p><img src="https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/upload_2020-11-20_9-55-33-png.1205788/" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Back to your coin: how to proceed? </p><p><br /></p><p>First, if you're totally unexperienced, I would recommend against restoration. Otherwise, I would advice the following steps:</p><p>1) prepare a solution of sodium thiosulphate in distilled H2O. Use a strong solution, e.g. 10g in 20 ml of H2O. </p><p>2) with a pipette: remove about 5 ml from the solution, and add to 5 ml of glycerol (also known as glycerine). This will increase the surface tension: Without the glycerine, the surface tension will be too low, and the droplet will spread out to on the surface of the coin (see here: <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/playing-around-with-hydrochloric-acid-cleaning-my-avatar-coin.383989/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/playing-around-with-hydrochloric-acid-cleaning-my-avatar-coin.383989/">https://www.cointalk.com/threads/playing-around-with-hydrochloric-acid-cleaning-my-avatar-coin.383989/</a> where I encountered a similar problem, but then with 30% HCl)</p><p>3) use a mechanical pipette, and place a small droplet of ~500 uL (0.5 ml) on another (silver) coin to test the surface tension. Preferably, you want to create a droplet which will not spread out on the surface of the coin, but that can be 'guided' to stay on top of the deposit. Add more glycerine if needed. </p><p>4) if the solution is less than <15 minutes old (sodium thiosulphate will degrade to elemental sulphur, amongst others, causing depositions of sulphur on your coin that are nearly impossible to remove): place the droplet on the deposit of your coin. </p><p>5) you will see that the deposit will dissolve easily. If not, use a droplet of acetone to remove any fatty layers that protect the AgCl from the sodium thiosulphate. </p><p>6) rinse the coin with water and gently scrub the (now weakened) deposit with your thumb. </p><p>7) repeat until finished (remember step 4 though!)</p><p><br /></p><p>I would advice against mechanical cleaning unless you really know what you're doing.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Roerbakmix, post: 7939787, member: 100731"][USER=89970]@Fugio1[/USER], this is a difficult coin to clean. Not because of the encrustation, which will dissolve easily in sodium thiosulphate, but because of the lustrous yellow patina. Immersing the coin in sodium thiosulphate would definitely affect the toning: the coin will turn dark grey to black. See: [URL]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/hieronymus-of-syracuse-restoration-of-a-valuable-coin.365640/[/URL] In this thread, I restore a 10 Litra piece of Hieron (which sold for $1100 at CNG, if I remember correctly). The effect on that coin was dramatic (but expected): it turned black entirely. As I've explained in other posts, this black deposition can be removed easily, but the overall aspect of the coin will be different. Note that this deposition will easily dissolve, as mentioned. I classify this as 'granular with sharp borders': [ATTACH=full]1374010[/ATTACH] which is the same deposit as on the coin of Hieron in the beforementioned thread, and also the same as in this thread: [URL]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/cleaning-a-sceatta.370033/[/URL] (second post): [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/upload_2020-11-20_9-55-16-png.1205787/[/IMG] after: [IMG]https://www.cointalk.com/attachments/upload_2020-11-20_9-55-33-png.1205788/[/IMG] Back to your coin: how to proceed? First, if you're totally unexperienced, I would recommend against restoration. Otherwise, I would advice the following steps: 1) prepare a solution of sodium thiosulphate in distilled H2O. Use a strong solution, e.g. 10g in 20 ml of H2O. 2) with a pipette: remove about 5 ml from the solution, and add to 5 ml of glycerol (also known as glycerine). This will increase the surface tension: Without the glycerine, the surface tension will be too low, and the droplet will spread out to on the surface of the coin (see here: [URL]https://www.cointalk.com/threads/playing-around-with-hydrochloric-acid-cleaning-my-avatar-coin.383989/[/URL] where I encountered a similar problem, but then with 30% HCl) 3) use a mechanical pipette, and place a small droplet of ~500 uL (0.5 ml) on another (silver) coin to test the surface tension. Preferably, you want to create a droplet which will not spread out on the surface of the coin, but that can be 'guided' to stay on top of the deposit. Add more glycerine if needed. 4) if the solution is less than <15 minutes old (sodium thiosulphate will degrade to elemental sulphur, amongst others, causing depositions of sulphur on your coin that are nearly impossible to remove): place the droplet on the deposit of your coin. 5) you will see that the deposit will dissolve easily. If not, use a droplet of acetone to remove any fatty layers that protect the AgCl from the sodium thiosulphate. 6) rinse the coin with water and gently scrub the (now weakened) deposit with your thumb. 7) repeat until finished (remember step 4 though!) I would advice against mechanical cleaning unless you really know what you're doing.[/QUOTE]
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