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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 21426, member: 112&quot;]Howdy btr - Welcome to the Forum !!</p><p><br /></p><p>You ask good questions - here&#039;s my attempt at answers. When I looked at the first pic the tooling jumped out at me. But that&#039;s because I&#039;ve looked at a lot of coins over the years and after a while - you just get used to how they are supposed to look. But let&#039;s see if I can explain it.</p><p><br /></p><p>First of all - look at the overall condition of the coin and grade it. To my eye there is a good bit of wear on most of the coin - I would grade it VF. And the detail for the most part, especially in the center, is not sharp and clear. But take a look at the wing on the right - see how deep the grooves are as compared to the rest of the coin ? This is to me the most noticeable area and I would immediately suspect tooling. This area should be worn just like the rest of the coin but is not. Tooling is done in hope of fooling someone into thinking the coin has more detail than it really does.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now look at the rim between the M &amp; H. See what looks like fine scratches in the rim ? Those are file marks. This is usually done to remove bad rim dings. There should not be uniform scratches like that on the top of the rim. And if you could examine the coin edge face on - you would likely see a small depression in that area where the metal was removed. </p><p><br /></p><p>As for the cleaning - that is most obvious of all. See how dark the coin is around the rim and in the denticles ? That&#039;s because when they cleaned it - they couldn&#039;t get into those fine, tight spaces to remove the dark coloration that once covered the entire coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now coin 2 was a bit more difficult - I had to look at it for a minute or so to see the tooling - but it&#039;s there. The first place I noticed was in the sideburns and around the ear. And if you look at some areas in the hair - you can see deeper grooves there as well. And lastly the triangle and rays over the head. </p><p><br /></p><p>As for the cleaning - the fields are covered with hairlines and rub marks. And there are some dark spots in the denticles. But the head - look at it - see all the dark and light splotches around the ear and forehead ? That&#039;s cleaning.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for selling them on ebay - the slabs do a good job of providing an accurate description. So no, there would be nothing wrong with you selling them - just post pics of the slabs. But if I were you - I might keep them as a learning tool until you get to where you can recognize these problems.</p><p><br /></p><p>As posting pics here - if you get over 100k you&#039;re gonna have problems and it won&#039;t work with the Attachment function. Try to keep them under 50k so those with dial-up connections won&#039;t have to wait so long for the pics to load. Or - if you have your web site where you can host the pics - just post a link and you can have your pics be as large as you want.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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