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Message:: [QUOTE="medoraman, post: 1692287, member: 26302"]Yeah, I don't think we are disagreeing much either. Part of the problem is you may think I believe a VF is by definition a "better" coin. Heck no. I will pass on a VF for a gF lots of times. It depends on ME what is important to ME on the coin. Its a lot like the great demonstration Doug had of those Nemausus coins. I do believe every coin has an innate grade, most of us on here who have been around a while usually agree on the grade, but that has NOTHING to do with its desirability. With ancients, there is so much more going on than just a coin's grade, its not funny. I bought a RR coin once, passing over maybe 30 of them until I finally found one with a full camel neck and ARETAS on it. Those two things were important to me, but maybe not 99% of others looking at the same exact coin. In short, I assert grade is but a small factor on an ancient coin, but every ancient DOES have a grade by definition. That's all. No hard feelings. I would never take a swing at JA Steve, (he might be bigger than me). In the immortal words of Roy D. Mercer, "How big a boy are ya?" <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]