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<p>[QUOTE="tmoneyeagles, post: 630389, member: 17557"]Thank you, and I agree with the strike statement, I have well struck O minted coins, and weakly struck ones, and they grade the same.</p><p>Very true about that as well, they will get bumped for the toning every now and then, but a lot of coins are accurately graded, I would say all my morgans are accurately graded, maybe 1 or 2 there might be an argument for.</p><p>Nuclearmind, I am by no means and expert on morgans, but I will make a few suggestions to you. Look at graded examples, and buy some, and buy some raw coins as well, go to coin shows, and learn about counterfeit detection and cleaning detection.</p><p>Here are some examples of higher graded morgans, that I own.</p><p>Here is a MS64, that is a weaker strike, and IMO is a quailty coin for the grade.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH]51422.vB[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Now here is a MS63 1884 O, it has a stronger strike, and yet is graded lower due to more contact marks, which proves Lehigh's theory that generally, TPG's don't grade them higher for the strike of the coin</p><p>[ATTACH]51423.vB[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Lehigh, if you could post some of your morgans, yours are nicer than mine, and might show your bump for toned coins theory, and could also help him out with grading, as your pictures are better than mine.</p><p><br /></p><p>EDITED TO ADD: Polished coins will lose luster, but when they are not harshly polished, they will not show hairlines. Just because a coin has no hairlines, leads you to believe that it hasn't been cleaned? A coin doesn't need to have hairlines showing like crazy, although most cleaned examples will. When a coin is whizzed or polished it will lose luster, and if it is dipped, not over dipped to where it will lose its luster, but just dipped just right, it will keep luster, and make the coin look better. I am willing to bet, that this coin has been polished, and also looked nicer than before the polishing job.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="tmoneyeagles, post: 630389, member: 17557"]Thank you, and I agree with the strike statement, I have well struck O minted coins, and weakly struck ones, and they grade the same. Very true about that as well, they will get bumped for the toning every now and then, but a lot of coins are accurately graded, I would say all my morgans are accurately graded, maybe 1 or 2 there might be an argument for. Nuclearmind, I am by no means and expert on morgans, but I will make a few suggestions to you. Look at graded examples, and buy some, and buy some raw coins as well, go to coin shows, and learn about counterfeit detection and cleaning detection. Here are some examples of higher graded morgans, that I own. Here is a MS64, that is a weaker strike, and IMO is a quailty coin for the grade. [ATTACH]51422.vB[/ATTACH] Now here is a MS63 1884 O, it has a stronger strike, and yet is graded lower due to more contact marks, which proves Lehigh's theory that generally, TPG's don't grade them higher for the strike of the coin [ATTACH]51423.vB[/ATTACH] Lehigh, if you could post some of your morgans, yours are nicer than mine, and might show your bump for toned coins theory, and could also help him out with grading, as your pictures are better than mine. EDITED TO ADD: Polished coins will lose luster, but when they are not harshly polished, they will not show hairlines. Just because a coin has no hairlines, leads you to believe that it hasn't been cleaned? A coin doesn't need to have hairlines showing like crazy, although most cleaned examples will. When a coin is whizzed or polished it will lose luster, and if it is dipped, not over dipped to where it will lose its luster, but just dipped just right, it will keep luster, and make the coin look better. I am willing to bet, that this coin has been polished, and also looked nicer than before the polishing job.[/QUOTE]
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