How to fake a glossy patina?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by gecko, Nov 21, 2011.

  1. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Make it - why ? You can go to the store and buy it by the gallon.
     
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  3. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    We're talking about a steel cent why would you clean it, first off, and then want to put the natural look it had before you cleaned it, back, secondly?

    Should have left it alone to begin with. Not a high value coin in the first place.
     
  4. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

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  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    LOL ! love that cat picture !
     
  6. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Hmm, haven't seen it. Then again, I haven't been looking either. Wonder if Lowe's or Home Depot has it.
     
  7. snaz

    snaz Registry fever

    Aren't you guys talking about water? Buy it at the corner store.

    This thread doesn't seem to properly address cleaning coins. Maybe every is just tired of writing the same thing over and over again?

    Yes you CAN properly clean a coin. And no, it shouldn't be done regularly. Though there are times when a coin needs to be taken care of. A lot of the time leaving all the dirt, grime, pvc, whatever it is, will do damage over time.

    Though faking a patina... sounds suspicious..
     
  8. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    As Jack Nicholson said in "Five Easy Pieces", "I fake a little Mozart, you fake a little emotion". I don't think he really meant a patina, but that glossy look zinc has when it is new. I have seen "re-processed" zinc/steel cents offered for sale with a new zinc plating and buffed up.
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Every grocery store I've ever been in has it. Housewives use it in their irons - it doesn't clog them up like tap water does.
     
  10. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    So it's basically the same as bottled purified water?
     
  11. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    $.99 a gallon in any grocery store. In the bottled water section.
     
  12. gecko

    gecko Coin Collector/Hoarder

    Hey, It's only a steel cent. I would never clean other coins. I found a product called Bar Keepers' Friend and it completely removed all rust and opacity and made the coins shiny.
     
  13. snaz

    snaz Registry fever

    This is an example of "not the right way to do it". Sorry :(
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    No, not at all. It's distilled water. You know, water that has been boiled. The water vapor that comes off that boiling water runs through a condensing tube and is turned back into liquid water. That water is then collected and bottled. So there are no impurities, there are no minerals, there is nothing but pure water.

    Purified water is merely run through a series of filters. Tap water is purified water. But as with many things there are varying degrees of purification.
     
  15. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Good to know, thanks again.
     
  16. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    If I recall correctly, distilling won't remove all impurities. If the impurities have a boiling point near that of water (or possibly, below, if you do it the lazy way), they would remain in the vapor, as well.

    This is why distilled alcohol requires 80 degree boiling. That way you don't get the water in the post-distilled mix.
     
  17. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Distilling will remove all non-volatile impurities. It's not normally targeted at removing liquids or gases, but those usually aren't significant contaminants to begin with (other than the gases that dissolve from air).

    Separating liquids with similar boiling points is... complicated. For example, you can't separate out 100% ethanol from water by simple distillation. The best you can get is about 95% (190 proof). Google "azeotrope" for more information.
     
  18. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    This a thread for makin' "white lightning"?.........:)
     
  19. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    Hush! I'm trying to get secrets from other members. I know they're out there... :rolleyes:
     
  20. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    Distilling "water":

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  21. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Heh. My grandfather ran a demonstration still in a state park in the Maryland hills back in the 1960's. I never got to talk to him about it. I don't know if he would've recognized the word "azeotrope", but something tells me he brought significant "practical experience" to the job... :devil:
     
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