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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 2396037, member: 112&quot;]Just some observations. If you understand anything about coins, especially copper coins, the mere fact that such a huge number of older Red copper coins even exists in cleanly graded slabs proves that it is possible to turn a RB or BN cent RD. How does it &quot;prove&quot; anything ? Because reason proves it. It&#039;s amazing what you can do with the power of reason.</p><p><br /></p><p>Of course there are always those who say - show me, show me pictures, I&#039;ll not believe it unless I see with my own eyes. Well just as an example, here&#039;s a picture - </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]492874[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Do you believe it ? No of course you don&#039;t. Why ? Because you &quot;know&quot; that it&#039;s a photo- shopped picture. So why am I bothering to post that picture ? I would think that would be obvious, what good would it do to show you before and after pictures of BN cents being turned RD - when you know things like that picture above can be done ? So rather obviously before and after pictures wouldn&#039;t &quot;prove&quot; anything.</p><p><br /></p><p>And in that same vein consider this, there are countless numbers of things that you personally have never seen with your eyes - and yet you believe those things to be true ? Why is that ? Now you&#039;ll come up with all sorts of answers to justify your belief. But in the end it all boils down to one simple thing, you believe it because you want to believe it, you are willing to believe it. </p><p><br /></p><p>And by the same token there a countless numbers of other things out there that you have not seen with your own eyes and you do not believe. And with your dying breath you&#039;ll claim that they are not true, cannot be true - and for no other reason than because you don&#039;t want to believe it. And even if somebody &quot;proves&quot; it to you, you still won&#039;t believe it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Years ago there were many people who refused to believe that coin doctors could successfully artificially tone coins in such a way that the TPGs would grade and slab those coins. Heck there are still people who say it can&#039;t be done. But then one day a guy came along and proved that he could do it. He not only proved he could do it to the coins, he proved could do it while the coins were in the slabs. He took before and after pictures. Some believe that, others did not. Then some of those coins were available for in hand viewing at coin shows - more became believers. Others did not.</p><p><br /></p><p>That&#039;s my point, it doesn&#039;t matter what the proof is. The proof can be legion, but if you don&#039;t want to believe it, you&#039;re not going to. This concept, this idea is so pervasive that the first person to notice it and then document in writing that he noticed it, did so over 2000 years ago - his name was Julius Caesar. Today, the concept is still so pervasive that they even have a name for it - it&#039;s called denial. And a great many people suffer from it, and about a great many things. And almost without exception those who suffer from denial, claim that they are not suffering from denial at all. Others who look at them can see that they plainly are, but they themselves still deny it. They will even go so far to say that it is not them, but everybody else who is wrong.</p><p><br /></p><p>But then that&#039;s what denial is. It is the refusal to acknowledge that you could be wrong about something. That you believe something that just isn&#039;t true.</p><p><br /></p><p>Well folks, time and time again throughout recorded history we, as a species, have found that many of the things that we believed - just weren&#039;t true, and never were. THAT is an observation that perhaps we should pay attention to.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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