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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2395170, member: 24314"]Here is the problem: As I wrote before, I have seen a process that turned a red-brown IHC into red after two tries. I KNOW WHAT RED UNC INDIANS LOOK LIKE. Some posters around here are probably in their 80's. Red Indians were "chump change" in the old days (way before coin doctors). The electrolytic process <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 255)">I saw then </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">is probably "cave-man stuff" now. Nevertheless, it was simple chemistry. There is enough info out there that with research, coins, equipment , <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 255)">time and experimentation</span> anyone can probably do it. One dealer I know learned how to doctor proof IHC coins (in two months and got them slabbed at a huge profit <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 255)">using very little LOW TECH stuff in his coin shop bathroom! The coins are slabbed now while he does others. </span></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Now, I'll ask you to consider two things. Why in the world would he share his method with you? Did you burn the midnight oil? Did you contribute anything? Does anyone around here care about you or your challenge?</span> The answer comes easy <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> (I'm not the dealer)</p><p> </p><p>And now the philosophical question that has probably been discussed here many, many times before I ever heard of CT: What's the harm? If someone can restore/improve the eye appeal & value of a coin in such a way that professional dealers like it/cannot detect anything unnatural/and will fight each other to by it - <span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 179)">BINGO. </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">Now everyone is happy. The small-time dealer is now a rapidly getting rich, new "coin doctor". He's happy. The grading service is getting nice coins to grade. They're happy. The sellers are happy and the "registry set" collectors/investors are happy. </span><span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 179)">The world of numismatics keeps turning and no one cares about philosophy.</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"> So "suckers" like all of us and talk or write our heads off and nothing will change. </span></p><p> </p><p>Here is another one while you are at it. In our lifetime we have seen virtually undetectable counterfeits. Would you like to hold a beautiful 1796 dollar that was so nice looking it was slabbed or auctioned for a few thousand dollars. Would you pay $185 to fill a type set hole? No brainer... We all seek the genuine example - THAT'S ONE REASON THERE IS A MARKET FOR FAKES. Perhaps you should challenge them to show you how they do things.</p><p> </p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p>It can be done. The coin will turn <span style="color: rgb(179, 0, 179)">PINK.</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"> Now the "trick" is to make it LOOK natural again - in days or weeks NOT YEARS. The answer is in books. In fact, I just read one members post a few days ago that revealed one method that actually works. And sorry, I don't think anyone will tell you for the same reasons above. They make money doing it, it took research and experimentation, and you did not help. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)">PS There is a selfish reason I need/try to learn about the things the "coin doctors" do. That said, I try them out (not the Proof IHC as yet!) to verify and learn but I don't do it to sell coins. </span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0)"> </span>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 2395170, member: 24314"]Here is the problem: As I wrote before, I have seen a process that turned a red-brown IHC into red after two tries. I KNOW WHAT RED UNC INDIANS LOOK LIKE. Some posters around here are probably in their 80's. Red Indians were "chump change" in the old days (way before coin doctors). The electrolytic process [COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 255)]I saw then [/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]is probably "cave-man stuff" now. Nevertheless, it was simple chemistry. There is enough info out there that with research, coins, equipment , [COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 255)]time and experimentation[/COLOR] anyone can probably do it. One dealer I know learned how to doctor proof IHC coins (in two months and got them slabbed at a huge profit [COLOR=rgb(255, 0, 255)]using very little LOW TECH stuff in his coin shop bathroom! The coins are slabbed now while he does others. [/COLOR][/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]Now, I'll ask you to consider two things. Why in the world would he share his method with you? Did you burn the midnight oil? Did you contribute anything? Does anyone around here care about you or your challenge?[/COLOR] The answer comes easy :p (I'm not the dealer) And now the philosophical question that has probably been discussed here many, many times before I ever heard of CT: What's the harm? If someone can restore/improve the eye appeal & value of a coin in such a way that professional dealers like it/cannot detect anything unnatural/and will fight each other to by it - [COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 179)]BINGO. [/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]Now everyone is happy. The small-time dealer is now a rapidly getting rich, new "coin doctor". He's happy. The grading service is getting nice coins to grade. They're happy. The sellers are happy and the "registry set" collectors/investors are happy. [/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 179)]The world of numismatics keeps turning and no one cares about philosophy.[/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)] So "suckers" like all of us and talk or write our heads off and nothing will change. [/COLOR] Here is another one while you are at it. In our lifetime we have seen virtually undetectable counterfeits. Would you like to hold a beautiful 1796 dollar that was so nice looking it was slabbed or auctioned for a few thousand dollars. Would you pay $185 to fill a type set hole? No brainer... We all seek the genuine example - THAT'S ONE REASON THERE IS A MARKET FOR FAKES. Perhaps you should challenge them to show you how they do things. It can be done. The coin will turn [COLOR=rgb(179, 0, 179)]PINK.[/COLOR][COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)] Now the "trick" is to make it LOOK natural again - in days or weeks NOT YEARS. The answer is in books. In fact, I just read one members post a few days ago that revealed one method that actually works. And sorry, I don't think anyone will tell you for the same reasons above. They make money doing it, it took research and experimentation, and you did not help. [/COLOR] [COLOR=rgb(0, 0, 0)]PS There is a selfish reason I need/try to learn about the things the "coin doctors" do. That said, I try them out (not the Proof IHC as yet!) to verify and learn but I don't do it to sell coins. [/COLOR][/QUOTE]
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