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<p>[QUOTE="beef1020, post: 2054490, member: 24544"]Problem is, those articles were posted after the rediscovery. Prior to it's rediscovery, there was no way to know without the book, and</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Perfect! The wright book made Mr. Deck a nice five figure profit on one coin. Now find me that information from before the news of the rediscovery... see the value here.</p><p><br /></p><p> Current thoughts on the 52 n 11, there are no unique die states, only the reverse cud is a true cud. Obverse cuds are fold over laminations, or something else. See the problem with my previous internet information? Even knowledgeable people make mistakes online that go uncorrected.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm not picking on you here, I agree with a lot of what both of you are saying, but often the tone is imho overly dismissive of pretty standard, tried and true advice. Look, I have a bowl in my living room with $200 worth of junk us coins going back to the middle 1850s. It's there for guests to explore if they want, mostly kids, it's a discussion starter. I did not buy a book on Morgan dollars, or barber coinage but there both in the bowl. </p><p><br /></p><p>With that said, grellman was pretty much my first purchase in large cents, along with a cheap copy of sheldon. And yes large cents was the first series I started collecting so I was a newbie collector. Some series are really uncollectable in any serious way without the reference. Try collecting connecticut coppers without miller, some say its too difficult even with miller... yes, you could buy a nice type piece from a reputable dealer or auction house and probably be fine, but to collect the series you need the book. </p><p><br /></p><p>I guess the larger point here is, to go beyond a neophyte in a series you need the references, books, people, experience. If your fine filling some holes, buying inexpensive type pieces, and keeping your purchases inexpensive, like sub $2, im not sure how useful books are. While many collectors start there, not many stay, and once you move behind some basics you need the resources. The advice to beginners of buying the book before the coin is because they are beginners, and its safe advice for someone who wants to become more involved in the hobby.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="beef1020, post: 2054490, member: 24544"]Problem is, those articles were posted after the rediscovery. Prior to it's rediscovery, there was no way to know without the book, and Perfect! The wright book made Mr. Deck a nice five figure profit on one coin. Now find me that information from before the news of the rediscovery... see the value here. Current thoughts on the 52 n 11, there are no unique die states, only the reverse cud is a true cud. Obverse cuds are fold over laminations, or something else. See the problem with my previous internet information? Even knowledgeable people make mistakes online that go uncorrected. I'm not picking on you here, I agree with a lot of what both of you are saying, but often the tone is imho overly dismissive of pretty standard, tried and true advice. Look, I have a bowl in my living room with $200 worth of junk us coins going back to the middle 1850s. It's there for guests to explore if they want, mostly kids, it's a discussion starter. I did not buy a book on Morgan dollars, or barber coinage but there both in the bowl. With that said, grellman was pretty much my first purchase in large cents, along with a cheap copy of sheldon. And yes large cents was the first series I started collecting so I was a newbie collector. Some series are really uncollectable in any serious way without the reference. Try collecting connecticut coppers without miller, some say its too difficult even with miller... yes, you could buy a nice type piece from a reputable dealer or auction house and probably be fine, but to collect the series you need the book. I guess the larger point here is, to go beyond a neophyte in a series you need the references, books, people, experience. If your fine filling some holes, buying inexpensive type pieces, and keeping your purchases inexpensive, like sub $2, im not sure how useful books are. While many collectors start there, not many stay, and once you move behind some basics you need the resources. The advice to beginners of buying the book before the coin is because they are beginners, and its safe advice for someone who wants to become more involved in the hobby.[/QUOTE]
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