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<p>[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 2025982, member: 15309"]You spent 50 years collecting coins the old way because that is all that was available. The combination of the internet and quality digital photographs has only been around for about a decade and you have not collected coins at all during most of that time by your own admission. What year did you stop collecting coins?</p><p><br /></p><p>Nobody is saying you aren't knowledgeable about coins. But honestly, you sound just like the old time poker pros who used to laugh and tease the twenty something internet poker whiz kids. Well who is laughing now? A twenty something poker whiz has won every WSOP Main Event since 2008. And while the analogy from poker to coins isn't perfect, the inability of old guys to adapt to the new world is perfectly apt.</p><p><br /></p><p>Going to shows is very expensive, time consuming, and downright inconvenient. Every "so called" coin shop in my area is a pawn shop or bullion shop with no knowledge or concern for coins with numismatic value. They offer ridiculous low ball prices when buying and charge higher than E-Bay retail when selling graded material. I would love to see you try to walk into one of these shops and try to explain to them the concept that most TPG graded coins are overgraded. I don't know whether they would laugh at you or just throw you out, but I do know you would be leaving the store without any coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>Buying and selling coins on the internet using photographs is the easiest and most convenient way to buy coins in this day and age. If you buy from people with return policies it becomes much easier to evaluate the coins for yourself using your own grading abilities. You don't even need a dealer you can trust, just one on E-Bay who offers returns. Paypal will do the rest and give you all the protection that you need.</p><p><br /></p><p>Furthermore, why is everyone in numismatics completely obsessed with not losing money when it comes time to sell their coins? This is a hobby, it is meant to be enjoyed. Most hobbies, there is no resell. My brother pays in excess of $10K/year for a golf membership because he likes to play golf. Other people collect things that are basically worthless and sell for a mere fraction of what they paid. The point is that a newbie with no grading experience could buy PCGS & NGC certified coinage and recoup 75% of his initial investment with very little effort. And most of the lost would be transactional in the form of fees or commissions. </p><p><br /></p><p>I know you hate anecdotal evidence, but I have bought and sold hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of coins over the last decade without once ever going to a coin show. You might lump me into the 5% that did not lose money when I sold and chalk it up to luck. The truth is that I spent a lot of time reading coin books, interacting on coin forums, studying coins, photographing coins, and searching internet auctions in order to become an astute collector. It was not an accident that I was successful. Just because someone does it differently than you, it does not mean they are doing it wrong.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Lehigh96, post: 2025982, member: 15309"]You spent 50 years collecting coins the old way because that is all that was available. The combination of the internet and quality digital photographs has only been around for about a decade and you have not collected coins at all during most of that time by your own admission. What year did you stop collecting coins? Nobody is saying you aren't knowledgeable about coins. But honestly, you sound just like the old time poker pros who used to laugh and tease the twenty something internet poker whiz kids. Well who is laughing now? A twenty something poker whiz has won every WSOP Main Event since 2008. And while the analogy from poker to coins isn't perfect, the inability of old guys to adapt to the new world is perfectly apt. Going to shows is very expensive, time consuming, and downright inconvenient. Every "so called" coin shop in my area is a pawn shop or bullion shop with no knowledge or concern for coins with numismatic value. They offer ridiculous low ball prices when buying and charge higher than E-Bay retail when selling graded material. I would love to see you try to walk into one of these shops and try to explain to them the concept that most TPG graded coins are overgraded. I don't know whether they would laugh at you or just throw you out, but I do know you would be leaving the store without any coins. Buying and selling coins on the internet using photographs is the easiest and most convenient way to buy coins in this day and age. If you buy from people with return policies it becomes much easier to evaluate the coins for yourself using your own grading abilities. You don't even need a dealer you can trust, just one on E-Bay who offers returns. Paypal will do the rest and give you all the protection that you need. Furthermore, why is everyone in numismatics completely obsessed with not losing money when it comes time to sell their coins? This is a hobby, it is meant to be enjoyed. Most hobbies, there is no resell. My brother pays in excess of $10K/year for a golf membership because he likes to play golf. Other people collect things that are basically worthless and sell for a mere fraction of what they paid. The point is that a newbie with no grading experience could buy PCGS & NGC certified coinage and recoup 75% of his initial investment with very little effort. And most of the lost would be transactional in the form of fees or commissions. I know you hate anecdotal evidence, but I have bought and sold hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of coins over the last decade without once ever going to a coin show. You might lump me into the 5% that did not lose money when I sold and chalk it up to luck. The truth is that I spent a lot of time reading coin books, interacting on coin forums, studying coins, photographing coins, and searching internet auctions in order to become an astute collector. It was not an accident that I was successful. Just because someone does it differently than you, it does not mean they are doing it wrong.[/QUOTE]
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