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Message:: [QUOTE="medoraman, post: 2023126, member: 26302"]That was my point sir. Education all around. Some trolls sitting in their mother's basement like to think they are simply magically able to know all of this stuff. Personally, I needed to see the coins in person, talk to well respected dealers and collectors over the years, and have great references in order to feel like I was somewhat knowledgable in some numismatic areas. Buying some good numismatic references, going to coin shows to see lots of coins in person, and talking to knowledgable numismatists, are all part of "education" in this hobby. If some believe none of this is needed, well, that is their opinion I guess. I think its shortsighted and they are seriously shortchanging their "return" in this hobby, but that is their problem. Such collectors will always be at the mercy of the TPG's. Knowledgable collectors can use TPG's, I would put people like Morgandude and Lehigh to name two in that camp. But the TPG's have enabled a lot more collectors to collect coins without them feeling the need to actually learn something about the hobby. That is what is most sad, for its knowledge, not the actual coins, that gives me the most pleasure personally.[/QUOTE]