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At least 80% of the time I learn more about coins on contentious threads then the civil ones. For example I never knew about the details about Newcombe numbers or the die states. I would see large cents with n and r numbers but never know what they meant until I had to look them up.

 

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Listen, as long as I'm the only one with that approach to the misinformation you call "style" and high and mighty attitude you call "abrasive", then you are right, and you can stay right, as far as I'm concerned. I know which posters present me with the most logical, worthwhile and correct information. They even bother to back it up with some sort of evidence, reference or proof. We'll just call it a personal preference, you have your favorites, I have mine. I just wish your faves wouldn't drown out and overwhelm anyone and everyone who presents a differing opinion. You yourself seem disappointed that someone dared to revive an old thread. Strange.

Have you tried using the search on CT?

 

Why make this personal? Go search threads, I've argued with Doug before, strenuously, and in detail, I'm no acolyte. Stop viewing this as an us against them mentality. You don't like what they say, add your piece and move on. But I've seen multiple instances where you turn an argument personal in the face of honest differences of opionion.

You're on the war path here and I dont know why. Is Doug wrong about certain proof processes used for a brief period of time in the 50s, maybe, maybe not. Is he wrong that in 99.9 percent of cases die polish lines do not cross the devices, no.

 

What I do, is for the sake of freedom in any conversation (as opposed to an unrelenting, inflicting, pack of wolves approach to conversation). Do you really think any topic that touches on Die Finishing Lines should turn into a skewed terminology debate, by someone who has to repeat his drawn out definition and sidetrack the OP's purpose for starting the thread in the first place? Do you think that topic should overflow onto other forums, which I'm not part of, and become a laughing thread about GDJMSP? You go search the threads and see how many of them I was not involved in, with that same, ongoing problem.

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=8236947&fpart=1

 

That is pretty good.

We lose it in every harsh storm.

In 30+ years about 6 times, several for a week.

 

Common terminology and definitions are the key to solving problems and communicating clearly. Your free to call die finishing marks "die polishing", but that kind of sloppy thinking makes clear, reasoned, logical analysis difficult.

I didnt see you're helpful response to the shield nickel discussion. I see dougs, like I've seen it countless times before.

 

No worries, we lose power here in Canada, too, every time Vegas lights up a new attraction.

 

You're making me laugh. Keep telling people to go do a search and buy books, as vaguely as possible, in the interest of helping to solve problems and communicating clearly.

Hey, nice to see, when did you start calling them "die finishing lines/marks"?

 

You missed my detailed list of reference material for the series I collect, which I posted in this thread?

Seriously, this is stopping here on my end.

 

I'll check it out.

Much appreciated.

This was also appreciated. Some common ground. Just sticking up for the other end of some sound, practiced and true advice. Wouldn't want it to get lost on the other side of some vague, generic, one-line catch phrase.

 

That's funny. I point out something you did not bother to read and you tell me I didn't read the thread. Have you chose the next person you plan to pick apart because they have an opinion?

 

Maybe he has never read a book and doesn't know what you are talking about. Or perhaps he doesn't know what he is talking about? :>)

 

Sure, I don't even know how to read. It's all Google Talk and Google Listen.

You guys keep coming up with your hairsplitting arguments, while your good old boys' club hierarchy gets undermined, thread after thread. You just keep sending guys that can't even distinguish between "your" vs. "you're" and how it should be used in a sentence, to make the longer arguments for you. Bravo! I don't even have to be involved in a topic, anyone with half a brain will continue to question many members of your quality.

So far, I appreciate the humor within the grammar used by some of your "BUY THE BOOK, THEN THE COIN" book advocates. It makes me giggle.

 

So your argument is that kuba didn't take "mid level beginner" to mean what? Has it occurred to you that some interpret mid level beginner as still a beginner? How do you interpret this?

 

I interpret that you and Thread Crapper are mid level beginners.
There is great value in using books at any level in this hobby.

 

POW! POW! One-line Larry lands another powerful contribution in another topic.

 

Again with the not reading my posts. Not once have I said not to read books. In fact my only point I have been debating has been that I feel that reading a book with a small value coin of the type you are reading about in hand would be better learning experience then just a book.

How are you capable of intelligently discussing a topic without knowing exactly what was being said? You are arguing against me with belittling remarks when every post I wrote agrees with what you are saying.

 

I did read every word you wrote.

 

I now have more than a handful of Franklin Halves to stimulate the senses. Some in slabs, many raw. All picked out by myself, all with various dates. I think I have one date duplicate and it has already been promised to a friend that I swap with.

I decided, that now is the time to check out some literature, see what I haven't noticed before. Here, I've located a free book by Rick Tomaska, "The Complete Guide to Franklin Half Dollars", published in 2002.

Not only did I not have to spend a cent, I also found the first words by the author, to be very forward-thinking, progressive and open-minded...

http://blog.davidlawrence.com/index.php/franklin-half-dollars-foreword/

Anyone interested should check out this publication, as well as the right hand side column with various other Online Numismatic References.



http://blog.davidlawrence.com/index.php/reference-books/the-complete-guide-to-franklin-half-dollars/

In this hobby, especially this day and age, it's wise to start with coins and the internet. Enjoy!

 

Is the problem now with the word "buy"? Regardless of the use of "online reference" or "publication", it is still a book plain and simple, and one available on a site that has been recommended many, many times, even by some of us who find the advice to "buy (READ) the book before the coin" to be solid. The spirit of the advice is what matters here, and that is simply to educate one's self before investing money into buying coins. This is certainly not to say that one cannot or should not start out with or generally collect low value common material, or that the internet cannot be a fine educational tool, but only that it is wise, in a hobby such as this, not to blindly jump in. The results are what really matter and not how one goes about achieving them. Being as collecting interests vary greatly, what is best for one person is not necessarily what is best for another, so what point is there to argue and point fingers when the desired result is the same?




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