How should I start an ancient coin collection?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by NLL, Jul 12, 2017.

  1. NLL

    NLL Well-Known Member

    Hello guys. For some time now I have been wanting to start a collection of ancient coins, but I don't know where to begin. Is there any books I should buy that could help? Thanks for your help and time!
    My thanks also go out to @dougsmit and @FitzNigel for their knowledge! My thanks also go out to @Sallent and @gregarious for offering to give me a coin to start my collection!
    Best Regards,
    Nick L
     
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  3. Severus Alexander

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  4. Curtisimo

    Curtisimo the Great(ish)

    Welcome to the dark side @NLL. There are a lot of folks on here that can tell you better than me but I'll include a few suggestions.

    Books

    I am definitely not the type of commenter who thinks they must tell everyone they must "buy the book before you buy the coin" but if you have a genuine interest I highly recommend a few books as a fun place to start.

    If you like Greek!
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    @dougsmit recommended this book to me and I think it is excellent. Very undervalued for its content. Mine was around $20 I believe. It is not just a catalog of coins for reference and cataloging. It gives history and context to the coins it discusses.

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    Some people aren't a fan of ERIC II but despite whatever flaws it has I really like it. It is more of a catalog reference book but includes some information on all the emperors it covers. I think mine was $70ish.

    Places to buy

    Best advice is to use only reputable dealers. Exercise caution when buying on eBay as there are a lot of fakes and even experienced collectors have trouble spotting them sometimes. There are a lot of good dealers and I can't possibly name them all but here are a few of my favorites. Most are on Vcoins

    https://www.vcoins.com/en/Default.aspx

    Ancient Imports - One of my overall favorites and has some good sub $35 offerings.

    L. Alexander Wolfe - Good dealer for coins from Judaea and the Middle East.

    Ken Dorney - A fellow CTer with great stuff on offer at Vcoins and occasionally at auction as well.

    @John Anthony is also great and I've bought several of my favorite coins from him.


    Hope the above is helpful. I look forward to seeing you post some of your coins as you get them :)
     
  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I will second the recommendation of the Wayne Sayles books.

    Here is another introductory book that is published by Whitman. It should be easy to find and is pretty affordable. You might even be able to find it locally if your town has a big chain bookstore or hobby store like Books-a-Million or Barnes & Noble, Hobby Lobby, etc. Any of those kinds of places that have small collectibles sections that sell coin books and supplies.
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  6. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

  7. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    A general book like Sayles is a great place to start. I would also say figure out what you are Interested in and do a little bit of looking - if you like Romans, do a little internet research on Roman Coins. I agree with @Curtisimo to avoid eBay until you have a better understanding of the coins you are interested in.

    Look around in the forum and see what you like! The beauty of ancients is there is no wrong or right way to collect, you just need to be cautious of fakes of the more 'desirable' coins!
     
  8. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Of course you have @dougsmit's great articles on FORVM.

    And the author himself, right here.

    Not to mention @Ken Dorney.

    Both excellent people to know, and by no means the only good names to know, right here on CT.

    Plus the FORVM site is chock full of resources.

    There is so much information (and so many coins!) out there that its easy to get bewildered, and discouraged because you'll find yourself saying, "I could NEVER learn all this stuff!"

    Well, guess what - nobody can know all that stuff. And no person, government, or museum has a "complete collection" of ancient coins. It simply can't be done.

    Don't let that discourage you. Let it encourage you. Ancients are a wonderful field to study, learn, and enjoy, and can be collected on any budget. You might never look at other coins the same way once you've collected ancients a while.
     
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  9. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Although I am not a collector per se of ancients, I have heard of a few reputable dealers including Frank Robinson at FSR Coins, Pegasi and Dr. Robert Kurlan out of New York.
     
  10. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    I suggest looking through the stock at one of the V-coins stores and just see what catches your eye. I'd start off as a "magpie collector" of sorts until you develop a sense of what you like and what you might wish to focus on. You might decide to collect topically, such as "animals on coins" or "Venus on coins" or "architecture on coins." You might be attracted to a certain geographic area, such as coins of Moesia Inferior or coins of Nabatea. You might be interested in historical figures or dynasties, such as coins of Commodus and his family, coins of Trajan, or such.

    Don't specialize right away. Choose coins that choose you, if you know what I mean.
     
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  11. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    This is excellent advice, and what I did as a novice, though I was already focusing on a set of emperors at the time. Browsing VCoins.com is a great way to get a "feel" for ancients and what they typically sell for.

    (I did things backwards and went back and became a "magpie" later. My current "Eclectic Box" is the very essence of being an unspecialized "magpie" sort of collector.)
     
  12. Bart9349

    Bart9349 Junior Member


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    Learn ancient history.

    To maintain an interest in ancient coins, it is helpful to put coins in both a historical and social context. By doing this, these coins will come alive. They will become something more than cold and lifeless pieces of medal.

    The studies of ancient history and numismatics complement each other. They each will give a deeper appreciation and insight to the other.
     
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  13. Nerva

    Nerva Well-Known Member

    I started fairly recently. Got some things right and some things wrong. Here's what I learned:
    - Develop a relationship with a few trusted dealers to start with. There really are some crooks out there, including some well-known dealers. The Forum is good at sorting them. Good dealers will look after good customers. Focusing on a few dealers also helps narrow the search. The variety can be daunting at first.
    - Avoid auctions, and especially eBay, until you've developed a feel for the market.
    - The forum is great for dipping into for inspiration, advice and information.
    - It really helps if you can see coins for yourself, so get to some fairs if you can.
    - I was glad to start with some really good coins that I still particularly like. They don't have to be expensive. Some of the second century Roman emperors are quite common and you can get high-grade coins fairly cheaply.
    - You might not want to specialise straight away, but develop a rough idea of where you're going. I started deliberately broadly, trying to get a range of dates/origins/denominations, and later started to focus in on a couple of areas that particularly interest me.
     
  14. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Read some books, no matter which. Read postings in the Ancient Coins section. Buy some coins and post them here, don't be concerned about approval, the Forum really is a nice place.
     
  15. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    ..i thought i'd seen that name before.. i didn't know JA wuz also a published author too.wow..he IS famous:cigar:
     
  16. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    LM was talking about Doug Smith, if I followed it correctly. As for the John Anthony coin book author and "our" John Anthony, they are different people, although CoinTalk's John Anthony is awesome, knowledgeable of ancients, and wickedly witty.
     
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  17. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    oh, ok.. lol.. thanks TIF, i wuz gettin' ready ask for JA's autograph^^.( he is awesome ain't he.)
     
  18. gregarious

    gregarious E Pluribus Unum

    ..not taking anything away from V or forum sellers, i'm going to come to the defense of ebay. while there are some unscrupulous purse cutters there, they have a purdy much iron clad guaranteed money back on "anything" you buy that ain't what its supposed to be. i bought my 1st and last coins from there and i will continue to do so. other than 2 coins NGC said weren't real(i got my $ back), and maybe a few other Chinese tokens i have, i've not had any problems in 14 years of buying there. even when a seller doesn't offer returns, you still get your money back and most times get to keep the item. i know a several peeps here buy there, cause i've seen coins i was wanting and bidding on show up in threads:eek:
     
  19. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Yes, it's true that in addition to the sketchy stuff and the snakes in the grass, there are plenty of respectable ancient coin dealers and good deals on eBay (probably more honest sellers than bad, actually), but I do agree with those who've said that it is best for a novice to avoid auctions (one doesn't want to overpay!) and to stay off eBay until one is more experienced. Fixed price from trusted dealers on VCoins (or from sites like FORVM) is probably the best way to go initially. This is what I did. After a year or so of buying on VCoins, I did buy one tough coin (a sestertius of Pupienus) on eBay, but it was from a dealer I trusted and it was a Wildwinds-published plate coin.
     
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  20. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Check local shops too, if able.
     
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  21. Johnnie Black

    Johnnie Black Neither Gentleman Nor Scholar

    Can you recommend two or three trusted ancient coin ebay sellers? I'm also a beginner and this will help me browse trusted inventory.
     
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