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<p>[QUOTE="Sam_I_am.MiaFLUSA, post: 3129038, member: 84102"]Although you folks are addressing this question from the perspective of ancients, I would add that some more "modern" coins can & do appear so pitifully poor and yet are still highly collectible. I'm specifically thinking of Cut & Countermarked coins of the Caribbean and Latin America (which coincidentally have been addressed in another discussion topic of this morning's Coin Talk e-mail.) </p><p><br /></p><p> In early 1983 I was most fortunate to purchase a collection of coins from the scion of a family from Trinidad & Tobago who had been merchant traders since early in the 19th century. He & the family had agreed it was time to sell their collection/accumulation of coins they had put aside <i>waaay</i> <i>back</i> when they'd accepted such coins in the normal course of trading! </p><p><br /></p><p> Just to give you a taste of the nature of such a collection, included among other items was an 1852 U.S. Assay Office of Gold $20, which as referenced above had been accepted in the course of day-to-day commerce. And to illustrate how poor the state of preservation was of some coins in this collection, there was a <b><i>black</i></b> <b><i>dog</i></b> <b><i>of</i></b> <i><b>Nevis</b></i> <i><b>counterstamp</b></i> on a <b>S</b>panish <b>P</b>rovinces <b>o</b>f <b>A</b>merica <b><i>1•Real</i></b> that was so damned worn thin that if it had been an item in the sand at my feet, I swear I might have not bent over to pick it up! It was identifiable as a basic type coin but without the detail of when and where it had been struck. But it still brought several hundred dollars from the collector who purchased it at that year's San Diego ANA… and he was darned pleased to get it! </p><p><br /></p><p> [BTW, as a personal preference, I do not identify such coins as Spanish Colonial. Instead, I use the acronym <b>SPoA</b>, as unlike the British & French, the Spanish did not have "colonies" but rather, <i>overseas</i> <i>provinces</i>! Therefore, <b><i>SPoA</i></b>! Ironically, the French finally got to this perspective as well in the 20th century as they now refer to their former overseas colonies as <i>Overseas</i> <i>Departments</i>!][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Sam_I_am.MiaFLUSA, post: 3129038, member: 84102"]Although you folks are addressing this question from the perspective of ancients, I would add that some more "modern" coins can & do appear so pitifully poor and yet are still highly collectible. I'm specifically thinking of Cut & Countermarked coins of the Caribbean and Latin America (which coincidentally have been addressed in another discussion topic of this morning's Coin Talk e-mail.) In early 1983 I was most fortunate to purchase a collection of coins from the scion of a family from Trinidad & Tobago who had been merchant traders since early in the 19th century. He & the family had agreed it was time to sell their collection/accumulation of coins they had put aside [I]waaay[/I] [I]back[/I] when they'd accepted such coins in the normal course of trading! Just to give you a taste of the nature of such a collection, included among other items was an 1852 U.S. Assay Office of Gold $20, which as referenced above had been accepted in the course of day-to-day commerce. And to illustrate how poor the state of preservation was of some coins in this collection, there was a [B][I]black[/I][/B] [B][I]dog[/I][/B] [B][I]of[/I][/B] [I][B]Nevis[/B][/I][B] [/B][I][B]counterstamp[/B][/I] on a [B]S[/B]panish [B]P[/B]rovinces [B]o[/B]f [B]A[/B]merica [B][I]1•Real[/I][/B] that was so damned worn thin that if it had been an item in the sand at my feet, I swear I might have not bent over to pick it up! It was identifiable as a basic type coin but without the detail of when and where it had been struck. But it still brought several hundred dollars from the collector who purchased it at that year's San Diego ANA… and he was darned pleased to get it! [BTW, as a personal preference, I do not identify such coins as Spanish Colonial. Instead, I use the acronym [B]SPoA[/B], as unlike the British & French, the Spanish did not have "colonies" but rather, [I]overseas[/I] [I]provinces[/I]![I] [/I] Therefore, [B][I]SPoA[/I][/B]! Ironically, the French finally got to this perspective as well in the 20th century as they now refer to their former overseas colonies as [I]Overseas[/I] [I]Departments[/I]!][/QUOTE]
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