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<p>[QUOTE="baseball21, post: 3250633, member: 76863"]I'm not. I'm pushing back against the claim that there are no standards that some people keep pushing or that the standards are completely random. There are standards, there have always been standards since coin collecting started, and there will continue to be standards in the future. </p><p><br /></p><p>Ever since coin collecting started thousands of years ago there have been standards and ways of evaluating quality/grading them and throughout the entire time they have continued to change and evolve. </p><p><br /></p><p>A lot of people pushing these ideas that newer people seem to buy into that its all just whatever they feel like and there's no standards learned to grade decades ago and just want things to remain static for what they know. I would be concerned if grading hadn't changed at all in the last 30-50 years, that just means we stopped learning and evolving and that's a scary thought to just get set in one way and do it that way forever. </p><p><br /></p><p>If you aren't constantly re-educating yourself, relearning, and sharpening your skills you become irrelevant and everything has already passed you by. You say having to re-educate yourself like it's a bad thing yet it isn't, it's exactly what you should be doing anyway.</p><p><br /></p><p>So yes grading will continue to change overtime. As for hairlines and everything else it really is you know it when you see it. How visible are they, how much to do they jump, what other redeeming qualities does the coin have that may save it ect. With gold it will even vary by the series, is it a normal gold coin or one of the Indians where everything is flipped ect. Then you have the branch mints as well when it comes to gold like C and D. There is A LOT of specialization in the older gold world with a lot of varying qualities of minting. It can be very easy to get mint issues confused with what would be a details coin if it was a normal silver coin when someone isn't familiar with the nuances of the various gold series[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="baseball21, post: 3250633, member: 76863"]I'm not. I'm pushing back against the claim that there are no standards that some people keep pushing or that the standards are completely random. There are standards, there have always been standards since coin collecting started, and there will continue to be standards in the future. Ever since coin collecting started thousands of years ago there have been standards and ways of evaluating quality/grading them and throughout the entire time they have continued to change and evolve. A lot of people pushing these ideas that newer people seem to buy into that its all just whatever they feel like and there's no standards learned to grade decades ago and just want things to remain static for what they know. I would be concerned if grading hadn't changed at all in the last 30-50 years, that just means we stopped learning and evolving and that's a scary thought to just get set in one way and do it that way forever. If you aren't constantly re-educating yourself, relearning, and sharpening your skills you become irrelevant and everything has already passed you by. You say having to re-educate yourself like it's a bad thing yet it isn't, it's exactly what you should be doing anyway. So yes grading will continue to change overtime. As for hairlines and everything else it really is you know it when you see it. How visible are they, how much to do they jump, what other redeeming qualities does the coin have that may save it ect. With gold it will even vary by the series, is it a normal gold coin or one of the Indians where everything is flipped ect. Then you have the branch mints as well when it comes to gold like C and D. There is A LOT of specialization in the older gold world with a lot of varying qualities of minting. It can be very easy to get mint issues confused with what would be a details coin if it was a normal silver coin when someone isn't familiar with the nuances of the various gold series[/QUOTE]
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