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Message:: [QUOTE="SuperDave, post: 2712209, member: 1892"]This is pretty much the definitive answer to every question posed in this thread.  I have proven this to be true time and again - pretty much every coin I shoot - because I learned years ago what a camera can and can't do to a coin's appearance. Knowing how easily a lens can flatter a coin as it can denigrate it, I've spent as much thought on how I light for my own vision as for my camera. Every image I post here has appeared exactly like I posted it to my own eyes. That's the only way I know I got it right. The advantage Phil has is in the ability to shoot raw what we only get to see in a slab. Do not underestimate the cost of that thin layer of plastic in photographic terms; it's all but impossible to duplicate the total contrast level of the raw coin shot once encased unless done in postprocessing. And it is in that extra contrast where the appearance of "juicing" comes into play. The colors aren't artificially brighter, the whole image simply has greater dynamic range. Blacks are blacker, colors are more colorful. It's the same as the difference between FM radio broadcasting and a 256 kbps digital download. And any one among you who feels like going to the same level of effort as I have can prove this to yourselves, with your own eyes.[/QUOTE]