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<p>[QUOTE="treylxapi47, post: 1839918, member: 41863"]Well let me rephrase the ethical part. Would you have a problem with anyone cracking this out for a possible regrade attempt? If not, then its very close to a similar situation, because there's only a few scenarios that would make that happen.</p><p>1: You disagree with a mistaken label/grade and seek to make sure its graded/attributed correctly, or </p><p>2: You believe the label but think the issue is borderline enough to pass at NGC or PCGS, which is unethical because you already know the damage exists and its already attributed and you are trying to unethically slide it by an off grader to pass as a problem free example to maximize value out of the coin. </p><p><br /></p><p>(Yous in this example are just general yous, no one specific)</p><p><br /></p><p>So if the OP cracks this coin and provides a good, honest description of what he sees disregarding the attached label, then its the duty of the buyer to be sure what they are getting. Which is also why I said attach those great HI-RES photo from Heritage. Even you question your ability to see what may or may not even be present (shoot we all cant even agree that there is real damage).</p><p><br /></p><p>Also, I do think I MAY be able to stretch and see what ANACS sees based off of PCGS' description for environmental damage, specifically this part:</p><p><br /></p><p><b>"Environmental Damage.</b></p><p>Coins that are damaged because of improper storage may be rejected. Corrosion is caused by storage in areas of high humidity, sea salvage coins, and coins found in the ground. <i>Toning that is excessively dark or heavy, or which <b><u>burns</u></b> into the surface of the coin, may be rejected.</i>"</p><p><br /></p><p>So how and where do you draw the line if the 'surface burn' is that light that we are having a hard time seeing it? Cause thats what im gonna 'guess' and say is wrong with this coin. That spot of toning to the right field is slightly burning or eating away at the surface, of course under a loupe it could be easily identifiable, but we dont have that opportunity.</p><p><br /></p><p>Its a real tough situation, which is why patience will be key, and only the OP knows the route that will set right with him at the end of the day. However i dont think there is anything wrong with dumping a ridiculous (possibly wrong) label from the 3rd rated TPG and going out with a raw coin.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="treylxapi47, post: 1839918, member: 41863"]Well let me rephrase the ethical part. Would you have a problem with anyone cracking this out for a possible regrade attempt? If not, then its very close to a similar situation, because there's only a few scenarios that would make that happen. 1: You disagree with a mistaken label/grade and seek to make sure its graded/attributed correctly, or 2: You believe the label but think the issue is borderline enough to pass at NGC or PCGS, which is unethical because you already know the damage exists and its already attributed and you are trying to unethically slide it by an off grader to pass as a problem free example to maximize value out of the coin. (Yous in this example are just general yous, no one specific) So if the OP cracks this coin and provides a good, honest description of what he sees disregarding the attached label, then its the duty of the buyer to be sure what they are getting. Which is also why I said attach those great HI-RES photo from Heritage. Even you question your ability to see what may or may not even be present (shoot we all cant even agree that there is real damage). Also, I do think I MAY be able to stretch and see what ANACS sees based off of PCGS' description for environmental damage, specifically this part: [B]"Environmental Damage.[/B] Coins that are damaged because of improper storage may be rejected. Corrosion is caused by storage in areas of high humidity, sea salvage coins, and coins found in the ground. [I]Toning that is excessively dark or heavy, or which [B][U]burns[/U][/B] into the surface of the coin, may be rejected.[/I]" So how and where do you draw the line if the 'surface burn' is that light that we are having a hard time seeing it? Cause thats what im gonna 'guess' and say is wrong with this coin. That spot of toning to the right field is slightly burning or eating away at the surface, of course under a loupe it could be easily identifiable, but we dont have that opportunity. Its a real tough situation, which is why patience will be key, and only the OP knows the route that will set right with him at the end of the day. However i dont think there is anything wrong with dumping a ridiculous (possibly wrong) label from the 3rd rated TPG and going out with a raw coin.[/QUOTE]
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