Log in or Sign up
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
US Coins Forum
>
how many people collect Kennedy halves?
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="Caleb, post: 1252585, member: 32795"]<font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><span style="color: #000000">Hi,</span></font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><span style="color: #000000">I wasn’t trying to be disrespectful with my comment, just stating that the online Registry at PCGS and NGC are not all that they are cracked up to be.</span></font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><span style="color: #000000">PCGS treats the 1964 Accented Hair Proof as a variety. How can the first design be a variety of the second design? Shouldn’t the first design be the standard and any modifications or differences are the varieties? NGC requires both the Accented Hair and the “non” Accented Hair 1964 Proofs in its Registry basic set. I couldn’t imagine collecting a complete basic set of Stand Liberty Quarters without wanting an example of both Type1 and Type2 1917 quarters.</span></font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="color: #000000">PCGS treats the 1998-S Mattie as a variety and not a basic coin. What is it a variety of? Is there another 1998-S Silver circulation strike coin out there in the Kennedy series? I don’t understand how PCGS can designate a coin a variety when there is no basic coin. </span></font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><span style="color: #000000">In the basic Jefferson nickel collection in the PCGS Registry, they require both the 1994 SMS and the 1997 SMS along with the regular business strike coins for those years. Why is the 1998-S SMS treated differently in the Registry, where is the consistency? All three coins came from the US Mint in “special” offerings of commemorative coins. </span></font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font size="3"><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="color: #000000">Don’t even think about getting me going on PCGS in their Registry concerning the variety sets. PCGS has what they call the “Major Varieties” and requires the 1964-D DDO-005 but not the 1964-D DDO-003 when they are both classic varieties for the series and both as strong on the spread as each other. </span></font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><span style="color: #000000">How about the 1964-D RPM-001 or RPM-002. In the PCGS Registry the set owner decides which one to put into the “Major Variety” set. Neither one is a “major” variety.</span></font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="color: #000000"><font size="3">PCGS stated that they will use the 4</font>[SUP]<font size="2">th</font>[/SUP]<font size="3"> Edition, Volume II of the Cherrypickers’ Guide to determine which varieties they will attribute and require in the modern coin series. Talk about a cop out, some of the varieties listed in this book for the Kennedy series wouldn’t even make the top 150 list, let alone the top 50. After studying the Cherrypickers’ Guide for the past couple of years, the only conclusion that I can come up with is that when they were completing Volume II of the 4</font>[SUP]<font size="2">th</font>[/SUP]<font size="3"> Edition they must have been using what ever varieties they had laying around just to fill the pages, at least for the Kennedy series. Just to give a few examples:</font></span></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="color: #000000"><font size="3">1.</font> <font size="3">The 1972-D “no FG” gets listed but not the 1982-P or the 1983-P “no FG”.</font></span></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="color: #000000"><font size="3">2.</font> <font size="3">The 1967 DDO-007 but not the 1967 DDO-001.</font></span></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="color: #000000"><font size="3">3.</font> <font size="3">The 1964-D DDO-004 but not the 1964-D DDO-009 or DDO-010.</font></span></font></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><span style="color: #000000"><font size="3">4.</font> <font size="3">The 1972 DDO-001 but not the 1971 (P) DDO-001.</font></span></font></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">5.</font> <font size="3">How about the 1968-D DDO-002 or the 1965 DDR-001 both got listed in the Guide and they are so minor that I hope the collector looking for these has a good loupe to spot them.</font></font></span></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3">The only bright side to the Cherrypickers’ Guide is I believe Ken Potter is putting in more thought on what should “make the cut” for inclusion in the 5</font>[SUP]<font size="2">th</font>[/SUP]<font size="3"> Edition.</font></font></span></p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><span style="color: #000000">So don’t worry about what place you are in at the online Registries, build your sets they way you want them, what makes sense to you, and above all else …. Have fun! And no, I don’t consider myself as being on the “top of the heap look down”, like most collectors I’m always looking for upgrades or that coin I just don’t have yet.</span></font></font></p><p><br /></p><p><font face="Times New Roman"><font size="3"><span style="color: #000000">Caleb</span></font></font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Caleb, post: 1252585, member: 32795"][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]Hi,[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]I wasn’t trying to be disrespectful with my comment, just stating that the online Registry at PCGS and NGC are not all that they are cracked up to be.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]PCGS treats the 1964 Accented Hair Proof as a variety. How can the first design be a variety of the second design? Shouldn’t the first design be the standard and any modifications or differences are the varieties? NGC requires both the Accented Hair and the “non” Accented Hair 1964 Proofs in its Registry basic set. I couldn’t imagine collecting a complete basic set of Stand Liberty Quarters without wanting an example of both Type1 and Type2 1917 quarters.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#000000]PCGS treats the 1998-S Mattie as a variety and not a basic coin. What is it a variety of? Is there another 1998-S Silver circulation strike coin out there in the Kennedy series? I don’t understand how PCGS can designate a coin a variety when there is no basic coin. [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]In the basic Jefferson nickel collection in the PCGS Registry, they require both the 1994 SMS and the 1997 SMS along with the regular business strike coins for those years. Why is the 1998-S SMS treated differently in the Registry, where is the consistency? All three coins came from the US Mint in “special” offerings of commemorative coins. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#000000]Don’t even think about getting me going on PCGS in their Registry concerning the variety sets. PCGS has what they call the “Major Varieties” and requires the 1964-D DDO-005 but not the 1964-D DDO-003 when they are both classic varieties for the series and both as strong on the spread as each other. [/COLOR][/FONT][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]How about the 1964-D RPM-001 or RPM-002. In the PCGS Registry the set owner decides which one to put into the “Major Variety” set. Neither one is a “major” variety.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#000000][SIZE=3]PCGS stated that they will use the 4[/SIZE][SUP][SIZE=2]th[/SIZE][/SUP][SIZE=3] Edition, Volume II of the Cherrypickers’ Guide to determine which varieties they will attribute and require in the modern coin series. Talk about a cop out, some of the varieties listed in this book for the Kennedy series wouldn’t even make the top 150 list, let alone the top 50. After studying the Cherrypickers’ Guide for the past couple of years, the only conclusion that I can come up with is that when they were completing Volume II of the 4[/SIZE][SUP][SIZE=2]th[/SIZE][/SUP][SIZE=3] Edition they must have been using what ever varieties they had laying around just to fill the pages, at least for the Kennedy series. Just to give a few examples:[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#000000][SIZE=3]1.[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]The 1972-D “no FG” gets listed but not the 1982-P or the 1983-P “no FG”.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#000000][SIZE=3]2.[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]The 1967 DDO-007 but not the 1967 DDO-001.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#000000][SIZE=3]3.[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]The 1964-D DDO-004 but not the 1964-D DDO-009 or DDO-010.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#000000][SIZE=3]4.[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]The 1972 DDO-001 but not the 1971 (P) DDO-001.[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]5.[/SIZE] [SIZE=3]How about the 1968-D DDO-002 or the 1965 DDR-001 both got listed in the Guide and they are so minor that I hope the collector looking for these has a good loupe to spot them.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]The only bright side to the Cherrypickers’ Guide is I believe Ken Potter is putting in more thought on what should “make the cut” for inclusion in the 5[/SIZE][SUP][SIZE=2]th[/SIZE][/SUP][SIZE=3] Edition.[/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]So don’t worry about what place you are in at the online Registries, build your sets they way you want them, what makes sense to you, and above all else …. Have fun! And no, I don’t consider myself as being on the “top of the heap look down”, like most collectors I’m always looking for upgrades or that coin I just don’t have yet.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3][COLOR=#000000]Caleb[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
US Coins Forum
>
how many people collect Kennedy halves?
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Competitions
Competitions
Quick Links
Competition Index
Rules, Terms & Conditions
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Showcase
Showcase
Quick Links
Search Items
Most Active Members
New Items
Directory
Directory
Quick Links
Directory Home
New Listings
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Sponsors
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...