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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2111883, member: 112"]Huh ? </p><p><br /></p><p>What I said was that many of these supposed "rarities" are in my opinion no different than privately minted copies of genuine coins. Why are they no different ? They are no different because they were not in any way part of a regular issue. They were made specifically to be rarities, anomalies. </p><p><br /></p><p>What this goes back to is the definition of a coin. Business strikes, minted and issued for use in circulation are coins. Proofs of those business strike coins, are coins. But copies of coins, often made years later than when the coins were issued - are not by definition even coins - they are merely copies of coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>So items, and I use Items because that is all they are, like the 1804 dollars, the '13 nickels, the '94-S dimes, the list goes on and on and on - are not coins. They are merely copies of coins, just like those minted by private mints at the beginning of this thread are copies of coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>And it makes no difference if original dies were used or not, they are still copies, nothing more. For a coin to even be a coin it has to have been made in the year that it has upon it, and it has to have been made as a regular issue of the mint at that time. Business strikes are regular issues, Proofs of those business strikes are regular issues - but nothing else is a regular issue, nothing. Re-strikes are not regular issues, by their very name they are re-strikes. And a re-strike is nothing more than a copy of the original, by definition. And if it is a copy then it cannot even be a coin.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2111883, member: 112"]Huh ? What I said was that many of these supposed "rarities" are in my opinion no different than privately minted copies of genuine coins. Why are they no different ? They are no different because they were not in any way part of a regular issue. They were made specifically to be rarities, anomalies. What this goes back to is the definition of a coin. Business strikes, minted and issued for use in circulation are coins. Proofs of those business strike coins, are coins. But copies of coins, often made years later than when the coins were issued - are not by definition even coins - they are merely copies of coins. So items, and I use Items because that is all they are, like the 1804 dollars, the '13 nickels, the '94-S dimes, the list goes on and on and on - are not coins. They are merely copies of coins, just like those minted by private mints at the beginning of this thread are copies of coins. And it makes no difference if original dies were used or not, they are still copies, nothing more. For a coin to even be a coin it has to have been made in the year that it has upon it, and it has to have been made as a regular issue of the mint at that time. Business strikes are regular issues, Proofs of those business strikes are regular issues - but nothing else is a regular issue, nothing. Re-strikes are not regular issues, by their very name they are re-strikes. And a re-strike is nothing more than a copy of the original, by definition. And if it is a copy then it cannot even be a coin.[/QUOTE]
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