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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;rmpsrpms, post: 2840898, member: 31773&quot;]I&#039;d expect a pre-made roll to be made by machine, and if so, there would be a patent application for that machine. I have not seen such a document, or reference to such a machine, in any of my patent searches, so I would conclude that pre-made rolls were not available until sometime in the teens or 20&#039;s.</p><p><br /></p><p>Keep in mind that a pre-wrapped roll tube is only secure on one end. The other end had to be folded over unless a crimping machine was available. Such a machine was not available until the teens.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>From the patent record, there was a slow uptake of coin rolling &quot;gadgets&quot; such as counters/sorters/rolling assistants until around 1913. You can read Batdorf&#039;s 1913 patent (applied 1911), but the gist of it is that the rolls that were being produced were not secure enough for commerce. I consider Batdorf&#039;s 1913 patent to be the seminal patent for OBW rolls, in that it&#039;s the first machine that could roll a &quot;tamper-proof&quot; roll that was tightly-wrapped and exposed a coin on both ends.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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