How make those extremely Closeups of Coins

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by tpsadler, Feb 29, 2016.

  1. tomfiggy

    tomfiggy Well-Known Member

    This is what I can get from my USB micro. On the 85 mint mark it looked like an RPM until I zoomed in and revealed itself to be a stain. The fg in the first pic took a hit. From a distance it looked like a possible DDO. Under close magnification it's just smashed.
     

    Attached Files:

    Last edited: Feb 29, 2016
  2. Avatar

    Guest User Guest



    to hide this ad.
  3. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    Those do a nice job of staying in focus with good magnification. what brand of usb is this?
     
  4. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    You are more in need of tethering than anything else, so you can focus on your monitor. No viewfinder is large enough to see the kind of focus we need.
     
  5. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    I am using tethering now but it obviously is not set to allow the fine closeups I am looking for
     
  6. ThinnPikkins

    ThinnPikkins Well-Known Member

    Screenshot_2016-02-29-14-45-57.png

    That is a nikon d5300 w/ 105mm macro lens. The original picture was zoomed and screen shot was taken on my phone. Not the best but i was not trying all that hard. Auto focus and vibration reduction were used. This is a 1959 proof franklin i just took out of the flat pack yesterday. I might add I am an extreme novice with dslr's and I could probably set the camera up better, settings and iso and such, but I have to do my homework on those subjects first.
     
    Last edited: Feb 29, 2016
  7. tomfiggy

    tomfiggy Well-Known Member

    Correct. .. the hardest part is keeping the lens still. I had a cheesy stand that came with mine. Even tightened down it would still move around. Now I set the edge of the tube on the table next to the coin for close shots. With the focus all the way in I tilt the lens until the detail I want is in focus, everything else nearby is out of focus since the field is so small. I evaluate the lighting and may have to take pics sideways or upside down then flip them in Windows Photo Viewer. I take a lot of them and keep the best. The light in the room makes a big difference. from about 9:00 AM until dark I can't take good ones. To much light washes out the pics. At night I can get good ones.
     
  8. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    Lighting from my room is all I have going for me now .. no windows and just light that I turn off with exception of my computer screen light. I have the view finder on the camera covered so no outside light to it. That is what was thinking yesterday when speaking to @rmpsrpms and I ordered those LED lamps. Still waiting on those .. Attempting at this time to focus camera with tether software but not successful so far .. this camera even has a mirrorless mode for these type of issues but have not figured out how to set that one up yet ..
     
  9. Dave M

    Dave M Francophiliac

    There are some exposure settings on that cropped image that are a bit odd. It is taken with:
    AV
    f/20
    1/60th sec
    ISO 250
    -3.3EV

    While I agree you've got three larger issues right now: 1) Lighting 2) Focus 3) Practice, you should also look at these at some point. Most any lens will get worse past about f/8 because of diffraction, and this is only magnified with macro type photos. So I'd suggest F/8. On your presumably very steady copy stand I would use ISO 100 and a longer shutter speed for better quality. The -3.3EV, which presumably you've had to dial in to adjust the exposure, is a result of using AV and spot metering on the coin. You can do it this way, or you can meter against a gray card, shoot in Manual, and be closer to right from the get-go.
     
  10. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    The lens is ~8" from coin when focused
     
  11. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    did you mean AF?
     
  12. Dave M

    Dave M Francophiliac

    Aperture Priority mode. Sorry that acronym comes from Canon, I don't know if Nikon folks use he same one.
     
  13. swamp yankee

    swamp yankee Well-Known Member

    Ask Alan@ coinzip.com here. I have a Dino-lite AM2111 usb microscope/MS 35B stand they are superb combo.
     
  14. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    The F/25 was because the coin was shot at a slight angle to redirect some of the reflection which created EV in parts of the photo. All the settings seen here are from the shoot of a BU Lincoln .. I did not fine turn these to display my shot of this coin because all I was attempting to display was the max unfocused shot I could obtain with this coin shown :) ... Sorry for the confusion
     
  15. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    You can't get good results from that lighting, and your lens cannot achieve focus that close to the subject.
     
  16. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    Unfortunately I have to use manual focusing
    For macro photos I think manual focus is the only option I have .. I use tether software to crop minimum area needed but I'm unable to get good enough focus .. this make me think I may need an extension or Bellows to get close enough to coin
     
  17. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Tethering software is used with Live View to manually focus the shot while you look at the coin on your monitor in real time. You make all adjustments to the shot parameters, and trigger the shot, with mouse and keyboard. Once set up and squared you never touch the camera again except to rotate the focus ring. I will never shoot a different way again.
     
  18. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    I am using Live View with Nikon's Capture Pro 2 Tethering Software and cannot rotate the focus ring with enough precision to focus with the extreme close up. Computer is used for all setups and triggering of shot
     
  19. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    I am thinking there must be a way ... just haven't stumbled on to it yet :( :(
    That is what amazes me when I see your photos
     
  20. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Tethering is on my 'to do' list, but till then, I can see my subject in 'live view' (camera) and have the ability to magnify the image on the screen to really get close. That way I can make minor adjustment with the focus if necessary.
     
  21. tpsadler

    tpsadler Numismatist

    Tethering is the only way to make good macros ... IMO
     
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page