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<p>[QUOTE="Troodon, post: 143381, member: 4626"]That's where I'd put the emphasis... the only time color is mentioned as a deciding factor in grading according to the ANA guide is with <i>copper</i> coins. It says nothing else about color as far as determining grade, only luster, when talking about non-copper coins.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>It may very well be your opinion that color should be a deciding factor with other coins too... but it's not the <i>ANA's</i> opinion. Feel free to start up your own grading service with that as a standard, but expect any coins that you won't give above MS-66 to because of the color that otherwise would merit the grade to get broken out and submitted to someone else, lol.</p><p><br /></p><p>In the 6th edition they state it this way about MS-67, on page 24 (emphasis mine of course):</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>It's this reference to color of copper coins that prevents TPG's from guaranteeing the grade of copper coins. Since the slabs are not airtight they can't guarantee that the color won't change, and since color is a decifing factor of the grade amongst copper coins above MS-66, they can't guarantee that the grade won't go down after time. However since color has nothing to do with the grade for non-copper coins, they have no problem guaranteeing the grades of those.</p><p><br /></p><p>The ANA further states, on page 34 of the 6th edition (again emphasis mine):</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Seems pretty clear that the ANA's opinion is that color only affects the grade with copper and bronze coins, and is only a deciding factor above MS-66. Whatever you might think about what the standard <i>should be</i>, that's what they say the standard <i>is</i>. Of course any grader is free to use or not use ANA standards if they choose, but they won't have a very marketable service if they don't, whether they overgrade based on ANA standards, or they undergrade based on those standards. Color will not likely be used as a deciding factor for non-copper coins as long as the ANA doesn't say it should be, amongst any graders that want to keep their reputation as an accurate grading service based on ANA standards.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Troodon, post: 143381, member: 4626"]That's where I'd put the emphasis... the only time color is mentioned as a deciding factor in grading according to the ANA guide is with [I]copper[/I] coins. It says nothing else about color as far as determining grade, only luster, when talking about non-copper coins. It may very well be your opinion that color should be a deciding factor with other coins too... but it's not the [I]ANA's[/I] opinion. Feel free to start up your own grading service with that as a standard, but expect any coins that you won't give above MS-66 to because of the color that otherwise would merit the grade to get broken out and submitted to someone else, lol. In the 6th edition they state it this way about MS-67, on page 24 (emphasis mine of course): It's this reference to color of copper coins that prevents TPG's from guaranteeing the grade of copper coins. Since the slabs are not airtight they can't guarantee that the color won't change, and since color is a decifing factor of the grade amongst copper coins above MS-66, they can't guarantee that the grade won't go down after time. However since color has nothing to do with the grade for non-copper coins, they have no problem guaranteeing the grades of those. The ANA further states, on page 34 of the 6th edition (again emphasis mine): Seems pretty clear that the ANA's opinion is that color only affects the grade with copper and bronze coins, and is only a deciding factor above MS-66. Whatever you might think about what the standard [i]should be[/I], that's what they say the standard [i]is[/i]. Of course any grader is free to use or not use ANA standards if they choose, but they won't have a very marketable service if they don't, whether they overgrade based on ANA standards, or they undergrade based on those standards. Color will not likely be used as a deciding factor for non-copper coins as long as the ANA doesn't say it should be, amongst any graders that want to keep their reputation as an accurate grading service based on ANA standards.[/QUOTE]
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