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<p>[QUOTE="treylxapi47, post: 1894806, member: 41863"]I wasnt focused on the other small scratches, yes I seen them, but I wasnt out to note EVERY issue with the coin, just the most concerning to me and how it passed a details grade. Ill be sure to tag you in every in-depth, detailed thread I post so I can make sure my threads are up to YOUR standards.</p><p><br /></p><p>My issues as you put them are out of context for you apparently, as this is NOT the first thread I have posted a gripe about the TPGs. </p><p><br /></p><p>May I be using too much magnification, this may be possible, but in hand, without magnification it is still visible, as in I can see shiny metal when rotating it back and forth that is broken through the luster and surface. Largely depends on the light how well it can be seen. Incandescent it shows up nicely, fluorescent I have to work a little more to see it. </p><p><br /></p><p>I admit my mistakes all the time, here on these open boards, again feel free to find SEVERAL of my postings where I do just exactly that. </p><p><br /></p><p>As for Doug, he is not the end all, be all for coin grading and collecting. This is not to belittle Doug in any manner. He is VERY knowledgeable and knows his stuff alot better than most, but plain and simply put, what appeals to him doesnt exactly appeal to me. What I see as an issue, he may not, and vice versa. Flavors of ice cream Lehigh, I like vanilla. </p><p><br /></p><p>The LAST thing I believe is that others should do ANYTHING for me. I dont expect anything from anybody. Ive accepted my lesson from this issue. Cool believe I wont buy another coin with an issue this distracting to me. I also believe that you shouldn't really hassle sellers with returns. Granted the pictures could've been better, but I pulled the trigger, I spent the money, so it's pretty much my coin at this point and I consider a lesson more than anything. </p><p><br /></p><p>If you have a problem with how I personally work out a situation, then fine, cruise right past my thread if you want. You dont need to belittle me and tell me how wrong I am doing everything when I genuinely want to learn. </p><p><br /></p><p>Also, I am not convinced entirely it is a staple scratch. I am simply saying that chasing long shots arent my style and the simplest answer probably wins. Staples, intentional graffiti, these are more likely than random gashes making a nice clean little 'X'</p><p><br /></p><p>Let me ask you a question since you seem to have a ton of expertise on my coin. Have you handled it in person? You made alot of assumptions if not. The first being my level of magnification if I can see it with the naked eye. Obviously you all couldnt see it from the sellers pictures and neither could I. I HAD to enhance the size obviously. Sheesh. </p><p><br /></p><p>Also, you are convinced on what the future holds for this coin when I have literally only had it since Friday. I thought this place was somewhere we could post images and ask questions. I had a straightforward question. How is it market acceptable? </p><p><br /></p><p>Some see it as intentional damage, some see it as circulation wear. Even seasoned collectors cant agree entirely. </p><p><br /></p><p>My rebuttal to the issue was postulated as an improvement for the overall benefit of this hobby. What is wrong with adding additional technical information to the back of the slab? </p><p><br /></p><p>Here are just a few positive outcomes from such a thing:</p><p>1) Detailed description highlighting the best positive attribute and worst negative attribute. This ensures we know a little bit more about the coin</p><p>2) More complete description to base our decisions off of when coins are bought sight unseen or through shabby photos</p><p>3) Increased profits for TPGs by resubmittals to have this info posted on every coin. Thats alot of dosh and likely incentive for the TPGs</p><p>4) Better liquidity with online selling platforms</p><p>5) Less returns due to improper descriptions and bad photos</p><p>6) Reminiscent of the days and methods of Auction Catalog Descriptions</p><p><br /></p><p>So not only have I in fact owned up to many of my mistakes Lehigh, but I have also offered a realistic alternative that benefits all but shady sellers trying to hide bad things about coins on purpose.</p><p><br /></p><p>So please tell me again how this thread is not beneficial and how it hasnt at least opened my mind to some things and possibly benefited the numismatic world at hand by just the very suggestion of changing how slabs are labeled? </p><p><br /></p><p>Can you even say anything bad about the idea of putting more information on the backside of a slab? TPG Cost? Time Consumption? Increased Grading Fees? Tell me.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="treylxapi47, post: 1894806, member: 41863"]I wasnt focused on the other small scratches, yes I seen them, but I wasnt out to note EVERY issue with the coin, just the most concerning to me and how it passed a details grade. Ill be sure to tag you in every in-depth, detailed thread I post so I can make sure my threads are up to YOUR standards. My issues as you put them are out of context for you apparently, as this is NOT the first thread I have posted a gripe about the TPGs. May I be using too much magnification, this may be possible, but in hand, without magnification it is still visible, as in I can see shiny metal when rotating it back and forth that is broken through the luster and surface. Largely depends on the light how well it can be seen. Incandescent it shows up nicely, fluorescent I have to work a little more to see it. I admit my mistakes all the time, here on these open boards, again feel free to find SEVERAL of my postings where I do just exactly that. As for Doug, he is not the end all, be all for coin grading and collecting. This is not to belittle Doug in any manner. He is VERY knowledgeable and knows his stuff alot better than most, but plain and simply put, what appeals to him doesnt exactly appeal to me. What I see as an issue, he may not, and vice versa. Flavors of ice cream Lehigh, I like vanilla. The LAST thing I believe is that others should do ANYTHING for me. I dont expect anything from anybody. Ive accepted my lesson from this issue. Cool believe I wont buy another coin with an issue this distracting to me. I also believe that you shouldn't really hassle sellers with returns. Granted the pictures could've been better, but I pulled the trigger, I spent the money, so it's pretty much my coin at this point and I consider a lesson more than anything. If you have a problem with how I personally work out a situation, then fine, cruise right past my thread if you want. You dont need to belittle me and tell me how wrong I am doing everything when I genuinely want to learn. Also, I am not convinced entirely it is a staple scratch. I am simply saying that chasing long shots arent my style and the simplest answer probably wins. Staples, intentional graffiti, these are more likely than random gashes making a nice clean little 'X' Let me ask you a question since you seem to have a ton of expertise on my coin. Have you handled it in person? You made alot of assumptions if not. The first being my level of magnification if I can see it with the naked eye. Obviously you all couldnt see it from the sellers pictures and neither could I. I HAD to enhance the size obviously. Sheesh. Also, you are convinced on what the future holds for this coin when I have literally only had it since Friday. I thought this place was somewhere we could post images and ask questions. I had a straightforward question. How is it market acceptable? Some see it as intentional damage, some see it as circulation wear. Even seasoned collectors cant agree entirely. My rebuttal to the issue was postulated as an improvement for the overall benefit of this hobby. What is wrong with adding additional technical information to the back of the slab? Here are just a few positive outcomes from such a thing: 1) Detailed description highlighting the best positive attribute and worst negative attribute. This ensures we know a little bit more about the coin 2) More complete description to base our decisions off of when coins are bought sight unseen or through shabby photos 3) Increased profits for TPGs by resubmittals to have this info posted on every coin. Thats alot of dosh and likely incentive for the TPGs 4) Better liquidity with online selling platforms 5) Less returns due to improper descriptions and bad photos 6) Reminiscent of the days and methods of Auction Catalog Descriptions So not only have I in fact owned up to many of my mistakes Lehigh, but I have also offered a realistic alternative that benefits all but shady sellers trying to hide bad things about coins on purpose. So please tell me again how this thread is not beneficial and how it hasnt at least opened my mind to some things and possibly benefited the numismatic world at hand by just the very suggestion of changing how slabs are labeled? Can you even say anything bad about the idea of putting more information on the backside of a slab? TPG Cost? Time Consumption? Increased Grading Fees? Tell me.[/QUOTE]
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