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<p>[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2686593, member: 112"]First of all I didn't make any "blanket statements". In my first post in this thread I said - </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>That is a generalized statement. The coin market "as a whole" does not mean every single coin in existence. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Talking through my hat huh ? You might want to look at the part I underlined in my quote above. </p><p><br /></p><p>You listed 2 coins as being the ones you're looking for, 1851 & 1852 SLH. Both of which are the lowest mintage examples of their type. By definition that makes them both an anomaly. Which I covered in that underlined portion of my statement above. </p><p><br /></p><p>Regarding grade the only thing you specified was - not in higher grades. Now I don't know what exactly you consider higher grades, so I started with VF35 and went down. The last recorded sales on Heritage for both the '51 and '52 in VF35 occurred in 2008 which was the market peaked. There was 1 for the '51 and 1 for the '52 in 2008, and 1 in 2003 which was lower than the sale in '08 of course. In VF 30 there are none for the '52 and 1 for the '51 which was in 1995. IN VF 25 there are none. In VF20 there is 1 for the '51 in 2013 and 1 for the '52 in 2015. In F15 there is 1 '51 in 2012 and none for the '52. There are no recorded sales for either coin in F12. </p><p><br /></p><p>Now I don't know how much lower you want to go in grade, but those records clearly indicate that there has not been more 1 sale for either coin (with that 1 exception) in any of those grades in almost 20 years. Point being there's no way to say prices have been going up or down.</p><p><br /></p><p>Similar results appear in grades higher than VF35, or where there have been multiple sales the realized prices have been going down. And if you want to talk about the '51 and '52 O mint coins, those have been going down on price in virtually all grades.</p><p><br /></p><p>So I'll repeat, talking through my hat ????[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2686593, member: 112"]First of all I didn't make any "blanket statements". In my first post in this thread I said - That is a generalized statement. The coin market "as a whole" does not mean every single coin in existence. Talking through my hat huh ? You might want to look at the part I underlined in my quote above. You listed 2 coins as being the ones you're looking for, 1851 & 1852 SLH. Both of which are the lowest mintage examples of their type. By definition that makes them both an anomaly. Which I covered in that underlined portion of my statement above. Regarding grade the only thing you specified was - not in higher grades. Now I don't know what exactly you consider higher grades, so I started with VF35 and went down. The last recorded sales on Heritage for both the '51 and '52 in VF35 occurred in 2008 which was the market peaked. There was 1 for the '51 and 1 for the '52 in 2008, and 1 in 2003 which was lower than the sale in '08 of course. In VF 30 there are none for the '52 and 1 for the '51 which was in 1995. IN VF 25 there are none. In VF20 there is 1 for the '51 in 2013 and 1 for the '52 in 2015. In F15 there is 1 '51 in 2012 and none for the '52. There are no recorded sales for either coin in F12. Now I don't know how much lower you want to go in grade, but those records clearly indicate that there has not been more 1 sale for either coin (with that 1 exception) in any of those grades in almost 20 years. Point being there's no way to say prices have been going up or down. Similar results appear in grades higher than VF35, or where there have been multiple sales the realized prices have been going down. And if you want to talk about the '51 and '52 O mint coins, those have been going down on price in virtually all grades. So I'll repeat, talking through my hat ????[/QUOTE]
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