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<p>[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 1212241, member: 27832"]It's pretty hard for me to prove things like this to myself, because I've still got so very far to go in developing my "eye" for flaws and damage.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think most visible flaws on a coin reflect visible light of all wavelengths just about the same way -- again, excepting toning or other colored deposits. But <i>eyes</i> certainly perceive different wavelengths differently. In particular, blue light is harder for eyes to focus. Incandescent bulbs produce relatively low levels of blue light, while "cool" fluorescents or LEDs produce higher levels. ("Everyone" apparently agrees that this is actually <i>better</i> for car headlights; I have no idea why.)</p><p><br /></p><p>Halogen lights can also put out a higher proportion of blue light, even though they are fundamentally incandescent.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'd take pictures under various light sources, but "which light shows flaws better in a photo" is an entirely different question from "which light shows flaws better to the eye".</p><p><br /></p><p>I was ready to guess that you see more under incandescent light simply because incandescent lights have long been brighter than fluorescent or LED alternatives. That can't explain their superiority to halogen bulbs, though. I would've guessed you would find halogen superior. So, my mental model is still wrong.</p><p><br /></p><p>Ah, well, off to do more research. While I don't have a well-trained eye, I do have a number of different kinds of light sources, and I certainly have plenty of flawed coins... <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 1212241, member: 27832"]It's pretty hard for me to prove things like this to myself, because I've still got so very far to go in developing my "eye" for flaws and damage. I think most visible flaws on a coin reflect visible light of all wavelengths just about the same way -- again, excepting toning or other colored deposits. But [I]eyes[/I] certainly perceive different wavelengths differently. In particular, blue light is harder for eyes to focus. Incandescent bulbs produce relatively low levels of blue light, while "cool" fluorescents or LEDs produce higher levels. ("Everyone" apparently agrees that this is actually [I]better[/I] for car headlights; I have no idea why.) Halogen lights can also put out a higher proportion of blue light, even though they are fundamentally incandescent. I'd take pictures under various light sources, but "which light shows flaws better in a photo" is an entirely different question from "which light shows flaws better to the eye". I was ready to guess that you see more under incandescent light simply because incandescent lights have long been brighter than fluorescent or LED alternatives. That can't explain their superiority to halogen bulbs, though. I would've guessed you would find halogen superior. So, my mental model is still wrong. Ah, well, off to do more research. While I don't have a well-trained eye, I do have a number of different kinds of light sources, and I certainly have plenty of flawed coins... :)[/QUOTE]
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