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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2918193, member: 19463"]From the Robinson auction I added two Byzantine bronzes that are different in many ways. Byzantine bronzes are something of an acquired taste. Those who like their coins neat and tidy will prefer the gold. Copper tends to be ....... well, <i>Byzantine</i>. </p><p><br /></p><p>The first is a duplicate of a coin I have had for many years and both are shown in the image below. Both are Heraclius SB883 countermarked on an earlier Heraculius SB 809. The new one (top) weighs 11.7g while the old one (bottom) is 6.4g. The flan for the bottom coin was trimmed down to its present size. Note the three straight edges and one curve from the original coin. Most of Heraclius' bronzes were restruck on something earlier but I can not identify the donor of this flan. The top coin was not trimmed so neatly. The edges are as sharp as a saw blade (it destroyed the envelope it came in). I wonder if I had it slabbed if it might set itself free??? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Both coins show the dual portraits of Heraclius and Heraclius Constantine countermarked on the reverse of a follis of Constantinople, officina Γ, from year XXI (some letters are weak but they are there). On the original obverse is a large SCL denoting the countermark was from the Sicilian mint. Have you ever bought a coin because it was sharp? I have. For the record, the new 2017 coin was $5 cheaper than the other was in 1992. When we say ancient coins are 'long term' investments we mean 'loooong'. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]706032[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>My second new coin is celebrating its homecoming. It came in an envelope saying it was sold in 1979 by a dealer in the town where I live (no longer active). I do not know where it spent the last 38 years but it stayed with its envelope. </p><p><br /></p><p>The coin is the smallest Byzantine copper denomination of the later period. This half tetarteron has the monogram of Manuel I on one side and his facing bust on the other. As these go, this one is not bad. It is the lighter standard version weighing 1.47g and 17mm diameter (thin!). The flan has been clipped leaving eight sides. I suspect an earlier coin was hammered flat befor trimming but the metal could have been from any source since there is no sign of earlier use. </p><p>[ATTACH=full]706036[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2918193, member: 19463"]From the Robinson auction I added two Byzantine bronzes that are different in many ways. Byzantine bronzes are something of an acquired taste. Those who like their coins neat and tidy will prefer the gold. Copper tends to be ....... well, [I]Byzantine[/I]. The first is a duplicate of a coin I have had for many years and both are shown in the image below. Both are Heraclius SB883 countermarked on an earlier Heraculius SB 809. The new one (top) weighs 11.7g while the old one (bottom) is 6.4g. The flan for the bottom coin was trimmed down to its present size. Note the three straight edges and one curve from the original coin. Most of Heraclius' bronzes were restruck on something earlier but I can not identify the donor of this flan. The top coin was not trimmed so neatly. The edges are as sharp as a saw blade (it destroyed the envelope it came in). I wonder if I had it slabbed if it might set itself free??? :p Both coins show the dual portraits of Heraclius and Heraclius Constantine countermarked on the reverse of a follis of Constantinople, officina Γ, from year XXI (some letters are weak but they are there). On the original obverse is a large SCL denoting the countermark was from the Sicilian mint. Have you ever bought a coin because it was sharp? I have. For the record, the new 2017 coin was $5 cheaper than the other was in 1992. When we say ancient coins are 'long term' investments we mean 'loooong'. [ATTACH=full]706032[/ATTACH] My second new coin is celebrating its homecoming. It came in an envelope saying it was sold in 1979 by a dealer in the town where I live (no longer active). I do not know where it spent the last 38 years but it stayed with its envelope. The coin is the smallest Byzantine copper denomination of the later period. This half tetarteron has the monogram of Manuel I on one side and his facing bust on the other. As these go, this one is not bad. It is the lighter standard version weighing 1.47g and 17mm diameter (thin!). The flan has been clipped leaving eight sides. I suspect an earlier coin was hammered flat befor trimming but the metal could have been from any source since there is no sign of earlier use. [ATTACH=full]706036[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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