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<p>[QUOTE="Sulla80, post: 3303931, member: 99456"][USER=77704]@panzerman[/USER] - although the estimate was ~400K, the <a href="https://www.coinworld.com/news/world-coins/2015/05/roman-gold-coins-top-numismatica-ars-classica-s-may-20-auction.all.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.coinworld.com/news/world-coins/2015/05/roman-gold-coins-top-numismatica-ars-classica-s-may-20-auction.all.html" rel="nofollow">Ars Classica coin sold</a> in 2015 for $697,882 (650K Swiss Francs) . Here's a little of the backstory:</p><p><br /></p><p>A Roman Republican Cn. Domitius Ahenobarbus Aureus, mint moving with Ahenobarbus in 41 BC, was auctioned by NFA in 1989 with a price realized of $140K. After close examination it was condemned as a modern forgery minted by the team known as "The Galvano Boys" and by pseudonyms "Costodoulos" and "Gulyas" believed to be operating in Greece.</p><p><br /></p><p>The forgery was exposed by <a href="http://numismatics.org/magazine/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/ansmagazinesummer09.pdf#page=48" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/magazine/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/ansmagazinesummer09.pdf#page=48" rel="nofollow">Silvia Hurter</a> and <a href="https://www.coinsweekly.com/en/Numismatic-Whos-Who/Alan-Walker/42?&id=103" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.coinsweekly.com/en/Numismatic-Whos-Who/Alan-Walker/42?&id=103" rel="nofollow">Alan Walker</a> and published in the "Bulletin on Counterfeits" (reading their bios perhaps illustrates the importance of trusted expert opinions and research):</p><p>- <u>The British Museum Forgers, or, "Costodoulos" and "Gulýas"</u> BoC 17, no.1, 1992, S.2-48.</p><p>- <u>The Galvano Boys - Part II</u> BoC 17, no.2, 1992/3, S.2-11.</p><p><br /></p><p>The forgers were initially called the “The British Museum Forgers” because some of their dies were created from casts of electrotypes of coins from the British Museum. The pair also made their own original engraved dies and enhanced transfer dies from genuine ancient coins. They were renamed to the "Galvano Boys" when the British Museum challenged the use of their name in reference to the forgers. The Ahenobarbous Aureus was reported to be a copy from a British Museum electrotype. The British Museum began selling electrotype copies of coins in its collection in the 1850s.</p><p><br /></p><p>Dealers who were misled contacted the purchasers and refunded their money, but the forgers were still active years later.</p><p><br /></p><p>References</p><p><font size="3">1. Silvia Mani Hurter Bibliography <a href="https://www.coingallery.de/Schriftenverzeichnisse/Hurter.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.coingallery.de/Schriftenverzeichnisse/Hurter.htm" rel="nofollow">https://www.coingallery.de/Schriftenverzeichnisse/Hurter.htm</a> </font></p><p><font size="3">2. 2009 Numismatics.org Obituary Silvia Hurter, <a href="http://numismatics.org/magazine/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/ansmagazinesummer09.pdf#page=48" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://numismatics.org/magazine/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/ansmagazinesummer09.pdf#page=48" rel="nofollow">http://numismatics.org/magazine/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/ansmagazinesummer09.pdf#page=48</a></font></p><p><font size="3">3. ACSSearch Numismatica Ars Classica Auction 46 Lot 454 <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=453753" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=453753" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=453753</a> </font></p><p><font size="3">4. The Celator Vol 3, No. 7, July 1989, p.V. Ad for Numismatic Fine Arts Auction XXII – has a photo of the Ahenobarbus coin <a href="https://community.vcoins.com/thecelator/The-Celator-Vol.03-No.07-Jul-1989.pdf" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://community.vcoins.com/thecelator/The-Celator-Vol.03-No.07-Jul-1989.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://community.vcoins.com/thecelator/The-Celator-Vol.03-No.07-Jul-1989.pdf</a> </font></p><p><font size="3">5. Dr. Ilya Popov’s Fake Ancient Coin Reports <a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-8016" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-8016" rel="nofollow">http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-8016</a> Note: reference to IAPN BOC Vol 17, No. 1 in 1992 - Example 17 </font></p><p><font size="3">6. IAPN BOC on FogeryNetwork.com <a href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=WE4gyK0Ffl0=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=WE4gyK0Ffl0=" rel="nofollow">http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=WE4gyK0Ffl0=</a> </font></p><p><font size="3">7. Modern Owl Forgeries <a href="http://rg.ancients.info/owls/forgeries.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://rg.ancients.info/owls/forgeries.html" rel="nofollow">http://rg.ancients.info/owls/forgeries.html</a> </font></p><p><font size="3">8. British Museum electrotype sold at auction <a href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=224630" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=224630" rel="nofollow">https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=224630</a> </font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Sulla80, post: 3303931, member: 99456"][USER=77704]@panzerman[/USER] - although the estimate was ~400K, the [URL='https://www.coinworld.com/news/world-coins/2015/05/roman-gold-coins-top-numismatica-ars-classica-s-may-20-auction.all.html']Ars Classica coin sold[/URL] in 2015 for $697,882 (650K Swiss Francs) . Here's a little of the backstory: A Roman Republican Cn. Domitius Ahenobarbus Aureus, mint moving with Ahenobarbus in 41 BC, was auctioned by NFA in 1989 with a price realized of $140K. After close examination it was condemned as a modern forgery minted by the team known as "The Galvano Boys" and by pseudonyms "Costodoulos" and "Gulyas" believed to be operating in Greece. The forgery was exposed by [URL='http://numismatics.org/magazine/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/ansmagazinesummer09.pdf#page=48']Silvia Hurter[/URL] and [URL='https://www.coinsweekly.com/en/Numismatic-Whos-Who/Alan-Walker/42?&id=103']Alan Walker[/URL] and published in the "Bulletin on Counterfeits" (reading their bios perhaps illustrates the importance of trusted expert opinions and research): - [U]The British Museum Forgers, or, "Costodoulos" and "Gulýas"[/U] BoC 17, no.1, 1992, S.2-48. - [U]The Galvano Boys - Part II[/U] BoC 17, no.2, 1992/3, S.2-11. The forgers were initially called the “The British Museum Forgers” because some of their dies were created from casts of electrotypes of coins from the British Museum. The pair also made their own original engraved dies and enhanced transfer dies from genuine ancient coins. They were renamed to the "Galvano Boys" when the British Museum challenged the use of their name in reference to the forgers. The Ahenobarbous Aureus was reported to be a copy from a British Museum electrotype. The British Museum began selling electrotype copies of coins in its collection in the 1850s. Dealers who were misled contacted the purchasers and refunded their money, but the forgers were still active years later. References [SIZE=3]1. Silvia Mani Hurter Bibliography [url]https://www.coingallery.de/Schriftenverzeichnisse/Hurter.htm[/url] 2. 2009 Numismatics.org Obituary Silvia Hurter, [url]http://numismatics.org/magazine/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/ansmagazinesummer09.pdf#page=48[/url] 3. ACSSearch Numismatica Ars Classica Auction 46 Lot 454 [url]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=453753[/url] 4. The Celator Vol 3, No. 7, July 1989, p.V. Ad for Numismatic Fine Arts Auction XXII – has a photo of the Ahenobarbus coin [url]https://community.vcoins.com/thecelator/The-Celator-Vol.03-No.07-Jul-1989.pdf[/url] 5. Dr. Ilya Popov’s Fake Ancient Coin Reports [url]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-8016[/url] Note: reference to IAPN BOC Vol 17, No. 1 in 1992 - Example 17 6. IAPN BOC on FogeryNetwork.com [url]http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=WE4gyK0Ffl0=[/url] 7. Modern Owl Forgeries [url]http://rg.ancients.info/owls/forgeries.html[/url] 8. British Museum electrotype sold at auction [url]https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=224630[/url] [/SIZE][/QUOTE]
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