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<p>[QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 4889313, member: 105098"]Density/Buoyancy. PVC it is heavier than freshwater, so are non-pvc plastics, except if we were to add in displacement or surface area of the item in question. You can float concrete in the ocean, if it's large enough and has enough displacement.</p><p><br /></p><p>the addition of the 2 tablespoons of salt to that 8 oz. of water ratio has it to where the less dense no-pvc containing plastics float, while the PVC doesn't. the variations in PVC density readings can be because the sample is flexible pvc vs. rigid, but flexible is ranged at (1.3-1.7g/cm3) depending on the mix now a days of the plastic.</p><p>in the old days though it was a lot of PVC in the mix. so in very many instances your samples density is going to be on the maximum side of the range, not the minimum. PET plastics are 1.3-1.4 density range.</p><p><br /></p><p>The salinity of 2 tablespoons of salt in 8 oz of water is roughly 4x the salinity of seawater. for seawater's salinity and density it's more like a half tablespoon per a pint.</p><p><br /></p><p>the water gets heavier with the addition of the dissolved salt and then one sinks, and the other floats. A gallon of saltwater weighs roughly 1/10th of a pound more than a gallon of freshwater because of the dissolved salt.</p><p><br /></p><p>Anyways, in a lot of cases this works, The PVC is denser than the water and stays down, the non-pvc plastic material is lighter than the water density, so it's bouyant.</p><p><br /></p><p>in fresh water nether would float as both are more dense than the density of the fresh water (0.99 at room temperature approx.)</p><p><br /></p><p>used to be an old experiment to float an egg in a glass of water, dump in a bunch of salt. do it slowly also until it becomes neutrally buoyant, top with freshwater to drop it, top with saltwater to raise it, fool your friends that it's magic!</p><p><br /></p><p>I did say "kind of" scientific. it's not all science really but it works. </p><p><br /></p><p>And hey, I'm a bit of a nerd about stuff with my free time, 40 years ago and now. Why waste my time mixing stump remover and sugar when I can just go buy a model rocket engine at the store? ......Because its interesting to me.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="John Burgess, post: 4889313, member: 105098"]Density/Buoyancy. PVC it is heavier than freshwater, so are non-pvc plastics, except if we were to add in displacement or surface area of the item in question. You can float concrete in the ocean, if it's large enough and has enough displacement. the addition of the 2 tablespoons of salt to that 8 oz. of water ratio has it to where the less dense no-pvc containing plastics float, while the PVC doesn't. the variations in PVC density readings can be because the sample is flexible pvc vs. rigid, but flexible is ranged at (1.3-1.7g/cm3) depending on the mix now a days of the plastic. in the old days though it was a lot of PVC in the mix. so in very many instances your samples density is going to be on the maximum side of the range, not the minimum. PET plastics are 1.3-1.4 density range. The salinity of 2 tablespoons of salt in 8 oz of water is roughly 4x the salinity of seawater. for seawater's salinity and density it's more like a half tablespoon per a pint. the water gets heavier with the addition of the dissolved salt and then one sinks, and the other floats. A gallon of saltwater weighs roughly 1/10th of a pound more than a gallon of freshwater because of the dissolved salt. Anyways, in a lot of cases this works, The PVC is denser than the water and stays down, the non-pvc plastic material is lighter than the water density, so it's bouyant. in fresh water nether would float as both are more dense than the density of the fresh water (0.99 at room temperature approx.) used to be an old experiment to float an egg in a glass of water, dump in a bunch of salt. do it slowly also until it becomes neutrally buoyant, top with freshwater to drop it, top with saltwater to raise it, fool your friends that it's magic! I did say "kind of" scientific. it's not all science really but it works. And hey, I'm a bit of a nerd about stuff with my free time, 40 years ago and now. Why waste my time mixing stump remover and sugar when I can just go buy a model rocket engine at the store? ......Because its interesting to me.[/QUOTE]
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