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<p>[QUOTE="beef1020, post: 2445787, member: 24544"]Of course they are not perfect, but don't make perfect the enemy of useful. Rarity has a definition in numismatics, it means the total number of extant coins at any given time. All the different scales are different attempts at classifying which counts should be called what. But they all recognize the basic concept that rarity scales are an attempt to quantify how many coins are known to exist today. Given that collectors have been using, and finding it useful, for over 50 years, if you have a different concept you are interested in quantifying then call it something else.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>No, absolute rarity is a quantifiable term based on a census and generally agreed upon by serious collectors in any given field. Take large cents for instance, there is a tremendous amount of work done by a group of collectors to keep the census numbers up to date for each variety. Over time, as more coins are found, those numbers increase, but the rarity scale represents a measurable quantity. The notion of relative rarity or some metric that includes 'demand' is not a directly measurable and quantifiable construct. And, I would add, that given the absolute rarity census that already exist, <b>price</b> becomes a pretty darn good indicator of demand or relative rarity as you like to call it. This notion of relative rarity does not add value, and is a categorically different metric than absolute rarity.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>All systems of classification depend on arbitrarily agreed upon definitions. Where the line is drawn is not important, that we all have a commonly understood and agreed upon definition is where the value of a rarity scales comes from. I could give two turds if the coin I have is 'Rare', 'Very Rare', 'Scarce', or whatever, I just want to know quantitatively that when I buy a large cent that a dealers calls 'Rare', I know exactly what they mean.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>If you would like to call this concept by a specific name, feel free to come up with one. Just don't call it rare, because rare already has an agreed upon definition, and a million existing coins is not anyone's idea of rare.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="beef1020, post: 2445787, member: 24544"]Of course they are not perfect, but don't make perfect the enemy of useful. Rarity has a definition in numismatics, it means the total number of extant coins at any given time. All the different scales are different attempts at classifying which counts should be called what. But they all recognize the basic concept that rarity scales are an attempt to quantify how many coins are known to exist today. Given that collectors have been using, and finding it useful, for over 50 years, if you have a different concept you are interested in quantifying then call it something else. No, absolute rarity is a quantifiable term based on a census and generally agreed upon by serious collectors in any given field. Take large cents for instance, there is a tremendous amount of work done by a group of collectors to keep the census numbers up to date for each variety. Over time, as more coins are found, those numbers increase, but the rarity scale represents a measurable quantity. The notion of relative rarity or some metric that includes 'demand' is not a directly measurable and quantifiable construct. And, I would add, that given the absolute rarity census that already exist, [B]price[/B] becomes a pretty darn good indicator of demand or relative rarity as you like to call it. This notion of relative rarity does not add value, and is a categorically different metric than absolute rarity. All systems of classification depend on arbitrarily agreed upon definitions. Where the line is drawn is not important, that we all have a commonly understood and agreed upon definition is where the value of a rarity scales comes from. I could give two turds if the coin I have is 'Rare', 'Very Rare', 'Scarce', or whatever, I just want to know quantitatively that when I buy a large cent that a dealers calls 'Rare', I know exactly what they mean. If you would like to call this concept by a specific name, feel free to come up with one. Just don't call it rare, because rare already has an agreed upon definition, and a million existing coins is not anyone's idea of rare.[/QUOTE]
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