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Message:: [QUOTE="GDJMSP, post: 2445679, member: 112"]Rarity scales are developed after years of meticulous and in depth research, people don't just sit down and make them up. For example, the Jasek Rarity Scale used for Netherlands gold ducats was developed after researching every auction company, every auction catalog, every on-line auction record, and even private reports of sales - worldwide, going back 150 years. And in some cases, much longer. That is why people use rarity scales, why they trust them. A rarity scale is based upon a complete census of all examples known to still exist. It has nothing to do with mintages because mintages don't matter. Mintages only tell you how many were produced in the beginning - not how many still exist today. And if you want to know if something is rare, scarce, or common then you want to know how many exist today - not how many existed however many number of years ago. No it isn't. When huge numbers of something exist but are unavailable for purchase, that does not make them relatively rare. It just means they are unavailable. And unavailable is not the same thing as rare. You're doing exactly what I was talking about above. Your trying to twist words and definitions to suit your own desires. Do you know what relatively rare means ? It means it's not as rare as something that really is rare - relatively rare is just another term for the word scarce, a word that has long been established and accepted to mean exactly that.[/QUOTE]