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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;medoraman, post: 1312794, member: 26302&quot;]I have a Lincoln souvenir belt buckle, (one of those things made from &quot;confederate contraband&quot;), that is copper and a stable dark red, reddish brown. No cleaning marks and appears original. I think it was similar to a coin and never used, just &quot;collected&quot;. I got it in a group of stuff once, and it looks well cared for.</p><p><br /></p><p>If we are talking about a coin with a trace of wear then I would say there is absolutely no chance of it ever staying red. If we are talking about something put away brand new, and stored, then there is a chance. Btw Doug, I have seen a few instances of old storage for some coins and it was great. Some collectors used to use glass jars with glass lids, (similar to old canning jars). Glass is a wonderful material to store coins in, better than most materials used today. Do I raise an eyebrow when I see something 200 years old and red? Yeah, of course. If it is a darker, stable version of red, though, I am willing to entertain the possiblity, even though I will still most likely believe it was cleaned at some point.</p><p><br /></p><p>My &quot;odds&quot;, in my head, would be if a coin was full BU, dark stable red, no damage, (meaning cared for properly), maybe 1 in a 100 or 1000. Your 1 in a billion may be right, but maybe I am just too trusting a person. </p><p><br /></p><p>Chris[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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