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<p>[QUOTE="Insider, post: 7326872, member: 24314"]<i><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 0)">I'll add my thoughts to the OP's original question when I have more time.</span></i></p><p><br /></p><p>Oldhoopster, posted: "Insider searching for apprentices at ICG."</p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 0)">LOL. Actually we've needed to hire four new employees so far this year to maintain our fast turnaround times. One is a grader in training. He is in his 20's and a very sharp fast learner. </span></i></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1278560[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p><p>Publius2, posted: "I wonder what the turnover rate is at the TPGs? It would seem to me that the burn-out rate might be high. While I love looking at coins as a hobby, doing it for a living at the rate of hundreds per day would get to be a beast after a while. Particularly if I was assigned hundreds of ASEs and the like. How interesting would that be?</p><p><br /></p><p>Is the work at the TPGs a sweatshop environment with production quotas and the same mind-numbing rotework all day every day? Or is it interesting enough to keep people at it for years on end?</p><p><br /></p><p>I don't know the answers to these questions but they certainly bear on the original question of getting and keeping what is no doubt a highly skilled and unique workforce."</p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 0)">It depends on the TPGS and how high up your position. I worked at NGC/NCS for ten years and cannot say one bad thing about the company, working conditions, and all the employees except for one. I loved the place and hoped to be there forever. For whatever the reason, my employment was terminated with several others during a business downturn. I was hired a few weeks later by ICG. </span></i></p><p><br /></p><p>JeffC, posted: "Poor ICG... I was reading an article in the APMEX Learning Center, which graded the TPGs as follows: PCGS, NGC, ANACS, ICG. Then that made me wonder "who grades the graders" and what KPIs do they use? And if ICG is the fourth, what do they have to do to make it to No. 3, No. 2, or even No. 1? But that's a thread for another day I guess."</p><p><br /></p><p><i><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 0)">The ranking of the TPGS's has already been discussed. There are valid reasons that NGC and PCGS are either #1 or #2. APMEX is a large coin/bullion dealer. They have a product to "sell." I'm not surprise that the writer simply "barfed-out" <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie103" alt=":yack:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> commonly held rankings based on what they sell w/o any personal research. </span></i></p><p><i><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 0)"><br /></span></i></p><p><i><span style="color: rgb(102, 0, 0)">PS I've never seen an ICG or ANACS coin sold by APMEX. I have seen several graded coins they sold that ICG would not cross.</span></i>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Insider, post: 7326872, member: 24314"][I][COLOR=rgb(102, 0, 0)]I'll add my thoughts to the OP's original question when I have more time.[/COLOR][/I] Oldhoopster, posted: "Insider searching for apprentices at ICG." [I][COLOR=rgb(102, 0, 0)]LOL. Actually we've needed to hire four new employees so far this year to maintain our fast turnaround times. One is a grader in training. He is in his 20's and a very sharp fast learner. [/COLOR][/I] [ATTACH=full]1278560[/ATTACH][/QUOTE] Publius2, posted: "I wonder what the turnover rate is at the TPGs? It would seem to me that the burn-out rate might be high. While I love looking at coins as a hobby, doing it for a living at the rate of hundreds per day would get to be a beast after a while. Particularly if I was assigned hundreds of ASEs and the like. How interesting would that be? Is the work at the TPGs a sweatshop environment with production quotas and the same mind-numbing rotework all day every day? Or is it interesting enough to keep people at it for years on end? I don't know the answers to these questions but they certainly bear on the original question of getting and keeping what is no doubt a highly skilled and unique workforce." [I][COLOR=rgb(102, 0, 0)]It depends on the TPGS and how high up your position. I worked at NGC/NCS for ten years and cannot say one bad thing about the company, working conditions, and all the employees except for one. I loved the place and hoped to be there forever. For whatever the reason, my employment was terminated with several others during a business downturn. I was hired a few weeks later by ICG. [/COLOR][/I] JeffC, posted: "Poor ICG... I was reading an article in the APMEX Learning Center, which graded the TPGs as follows: PCGS, NGC, ANACS, ICG. Then that made me wonder "who grades the graders" and what KPIs do they use? And if ICG is the fourth, what do they have to do to make it to No. 3, No. 2, or even No. 1? But that's a thread for another day I guess." [I][COLOR=rgb(102, 0, 0)]The ranking of the TPGS's has already been discussed. There are valid reasons that NGC and PCGS are either #1 or #2. APMEX is a large coin/bullion dealer. They have a product to "sell." I'm not surprise that the writer simply "barfed-out" :yack::yack::yack: commonly held rankings based on what they sell w/o any personal research. PS I've never seen an ICG or ANACS coin sold by APMEX. I have seen several graded coins they sold that ICG would not cross.[/COLOR][/I][/QUOTE]
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