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<p>[QUOTE="umtrr-author, post: 787007, member: 5719"]With respect to eBay, part of the original question:</p><p><br /></p><p>Just as individual over the counter sales can't be accumulated-- even if you somehow got every brick and mortar coin shop into a network, that still leaves coin shows and private transactions-- eBay sales can't be accumulated either. Which I think leads to the whole point about guides being just that.</p><p><br /></p><p>I agree that eBay has certainly led to some degree of upheaval of prices in many different markets including coins (it has more or less demolished the relatively "closed" aftermarket for "collectible" model trains for example). Even so, it would be a monumental if not impossible task to somehow compile the sheer number of sales that take place on that venue. </p><p><br /></p><p>Then you'd have to tease out the sales that shouldn't be counted for some reason or another... uninformed seller, two or more "highly motivated buyers" who drive the price out of sight on a common coin, shill bidding, inapprporiate grading, etc. And this assumes that eBay would be willing to co-operate in the harvesting and commercial use of this data, which they most certainly will not. (They claim that they "own" it. I seem to recall that your consent to not harvest results was part of the User Agreement.)</p><p><br /></p><p>It's possible for someone to pick a few items, set searches on them and compile the results as another data point, but I can't see the value of going beyond that and then only for personal use. </p><p><br /></p><p>In my mind, the statements "I can get this on eBay for $" and "I can get $ for this on eBay!" result in the response, "Well, why don't you?"[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="umtrr-author, post: 787007, member: 5719"]With respect to eBay, part of the original question: Just as individual over the counter sales can't be accumulated-- even if you somehow got every brick and mortar coin shop into a network, that still leaves coin shows and private transactions-- eBay sales can't be accumulated either. Which I think leads to the whole point about guides being just that. I agree that eBay has certainly led to some degree of upheaval of prices in many different markets including coins (it has more or less demolished the relatively "closed" aftermarket for "collectible" model trains for example). Even so, it would be a monumental if not impossible task to somehow compile the sheer number of sales that take place on that venue. Then you'd have to tease out the sales that shouldn't be counted for some reason or another... uninformed seller, two or more "highly motivated buyers" who drive the price out of sight on a common coin, shill bidding, inapprporiate grading, etc. And this assumes that eBay would be willing to co-operate in the harvesting and commercial use of this data, which they most certainly will not. (They claim that they "own" it. I seem to recall that your consent to not harvest results was part of the User Agreement.) It's possible for someone to pick a few items, set searches on them and compile the results as another data point, but I can't see the value of going beyond that and then only for personal use. In my mind, the statements "I can get this on eBay for $" and "I can get $ for this on eBay!" result in the response, "Well, why don't you?"[/QUOTE]
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