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<p>[QUOTE="cladking, post: 258293, member: 68"]GDJMSP nailed the proof sets and current mint sets.</p><p><br /></p><p>The older mint sets have a great deal of diversity from date to date and from coin to coin. Almost all of the finest coins made in the last couple of generations went into the mint sets. Those which didn't go in the mint sets almost always went into circulation and became lost or worn. In some cases there are virtually no examples of a coin that didn't come from a mint set. </p><p><br /></p><p>Perhaps the finest made of the mint set clads would be the 1972-D quarter. This coin would average MS-64 with 25% going MS-65 or better. Even MS-67's for this date are not rare. The best made of the cents in sets might be the '88-D. This would average MS-66 and very highly PL MS-69's are rarely available. </p><p><br /></p><p>The worst made mint set coin is, hands down, the '76-P type I Ike in the '75 mint set. Fully half of these can't even be sold as BU since they are so ugly. Just finding a nice attractive MS-63 can be a chore. Gems are rare. Not too far behind it would be a 1969-P quarter. This coin is horrid in the sets and while MS-63's aren't too tough gems are highly elusive. When this set was made perhaps 1 coin in 300 would go gem but the years have not been kind to this set. Large percentages of them have tarnished and there are a few people who selectively seek this coin. Of course it's hard to impact the population of something you can't find. The problem is exascerbated by the fact that a large percentage of this date has been destroyed over the years because of its limited value and the silver run-up that made it profitable to destroy them for the single 40% silver half in them. </p><p><br /></p><p>These are the extremes. In between there is almost everything. As a rule if one coin in a set tends nice then they all do but there are numerous exceptions. There is a lot of variability between the mints too. Denver is usually much nicer but if you look at only the very finest coins than the Phillys tend to be better. </p><p><br /></p><p>In 1986 the mint started polishing or burnishing some of the mint set planchets. When these were struck by a new pair of dies some spectacular coins were made but they were usually covered in small scratches that make them quite unsightly. </p><p><br /></p><p>A lot of the pennys are just a lost cause now. For instance every single 1968 cent from mint sets has carbon spots now. The vast majority are just ugly because of this spotting. (~95%) God only knows what collectors are going to do for gems of this date. Some roll coins are OK but these are hard to find with good strikes. The '84-D is rapidly going the same way. Most of these were pretty ugly to start with because of bad surfaces resulting from plating problems and striking characteristics so it's not as big of loss but roll coins of this date are tough and also suffer from the same problems. The late '70's cents from sets are hard to find without lots of scratches. </p><p><br /></p><p>I usually figure that two mint sets out of three will have at least one nice coin and this works well as a rule of thumb. Typically the nice coin will be something that is expected like an MS-64 cent or dime but it could be a choice gem '76 type I dollar. </p><p><br /></p><p>Before 1980 you can find a surprising number of sets that contain all gem coins. I suspect that this was the year they went to automated equipment for filling these sets.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="cladking, post: 258293, member: 68"]GDJMSP nailed the proof sets and current mint sets. The older mint sets have a great deal of diversity from date to date and from coin to coin. Almost all of the finest coins made in the last couple of generations went into the mint sets. Those which didn't go in the mint sets almost always went into circulation and became lost or worn. In some cases there are virtually no examples of a coin that didn't come from a mint set. Perhaps the finest made of the mint set clads would be the 1972-D quarter. This coin would average MS-64 with 25% going MS-65 or better. Even MS-67's for this date are not rare. The best made of the cents in sets might be the '88-D. This would average MS-66 and very highly PL MS-69's are rarely available. The worst made mint set coin is, hands down, the '76-P type I Ike in the '75 mint set. Fully half of these can't even be sold as BU since they are so ugly. Just finding a nice attractive MS-63 can be a chore. Gems are rare. Not too far behind it would be a 1969-P quarter. This coin is horrid in the sets and while MS-63's aren't too tough gems are highly elusive. When this set was made perhaps 1 coin in 300 would go gem but the years have not been kind to this set. Large percentages of them have tarnished and there are a few people who selectively seek this coin. Of course it's hard to impact the population of something you can't find. The problem is exascerbated by the fact that a large percentage of this date has been destroyed over the years because of its limited value and the silver run-up that made it profitable to destroy them for the single 40% silver half in them. These are the extremes. In between there is almost everything. As a rule if one coin in a set tends nice then they all do but there are numerous exceptions. There is a lot of variability between the mints too. Denver is usually much nicer but if you look at only the very finest coins than the Phillys tend to be better. In 1986 the mint started polishing or burnishing some of the mint set planchets. When these were struck by a new pair of dies some spectacular coins were made but they were usually covered in small scratches that make them quite unsightly. A lot of the pennys are just a lost cause now. For instance every single 1968 cent from mint sets has carbon spots now. The vast majority are just ugly because of this spotting. (~95%) God only knows what collectors are going to do for gems of this date. Some roll coins are OK but these are hard to find with good strikes. The '84-D is rapidly going the same way. Most of these were pretty ugly to start with because of bad surfaces resulting from plating problems and striking characteristics so it's not as big of loss but roll coins of this date are tough and also suffer from the same problems. The late '70's cents from sets are hard to find without lots of scratches. I usually figure that two mint sets out of three will have at least one nice coin and this works well as a rule of thumb. Typically the nice coin will be something that is expected like an MS-64 cent or dime but it could be a choice gem '76 type I dollar. Before 1980 you can find a surprising number of sets that contain all gem coins. I suspect that this was the year they went to automated equipment for filling these sets.[/QUOTE]
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