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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;panzerman, post: 3449497, member: 77704&quot;]I am one of those collectors tha twill keep a coin forever. All of my collection, now 850+ AV coins are keepers. I have 30 percent slabbed, rest European style raw graded. I truly beleive its better to obtain a CNG raw graded coin in EF, then to get into a slabbed MS 5/5 5/5, which will go way too high. Most CNG &quot;EF&quot; are better quality, eye appeal then slabbed MS examples. Even for &quot;moderns&quot;, I noted a Kunker graded gutes vorz. (EF+) was superior to a MS-63. Actually Kunker had a TPG MS-66 Napoleon 1806-A AV 20 Francs listed as fast st. (AU) in their auction. I do have some coins where previous auction tags/prices where included. One was from recent Newman Auction, coin in question was originally bought by Mr. Newman for $5 in 65. In 2015, it sold for 900US. Again in 65 it was a &quot;EF&quot; on paper pouch, in 2015 it went to MS-65![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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