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<p>[QUOTE="LaCointessa, post: 2889520, member: 87186"]Good morning [USER=88628]@CopperGenie[/USER].</p><p><br /></p><p>Before even deciding to clean a coin, I want to spend some time with it. Really looking closely at it. And sometimes photographing it as you have done here allows a good look at it. Sometimes, though, holding the coin away and not seeing it closely gives a better chance to get an idea about possible attribution.</p><p><br /></p><p>Have you tried to figure out the attribution of this coin yet? if you haven't, you might check here: <a href="https://www.tesorillo.com/aes/110/110i.htm" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.tesorillo.com/aes/110/110i.htm" rel="nofollow">https://www.tesorillo.com/aes/110/110i.htm</a></p><p>I love this coin already. I've never seen it before. It looks like a double victory but I've never seen a double victory with a VOT before. (but i'm a newby so there's still TONS of reverses I have not seen). The legend on the obverse says IMP CONSTANTINUS PP AVG. And I think it is Constantinus I Magnus (but I am not absolutely positive as I just took a peek).</p><p><br /></p><p>I think your coin is not in horrible condition. It is just crusty and dirty. I say go very slowly. If you are in a rush to clean it, you are the not the person to do the job. (sorry!) (No. Not sorry!) This is a wonderful coin that has great potential I think.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you had to begin to clean it, then it would be a child's first toothbrush dry on the dry coin with the lightest stroke - and stroke in one direction from the interior of the coin outward and let the stroke carry off the edge of the coin. I like to hold the coin perpendicular to the floor so that whatever loosens from the surface of the coin has a chance to fall away and not rest on it. I like to put a piece of white paper underneath to see what I 'catch.' After the first brushing I would study it again before deciding my next step. There really can not be (in my humble opinion) any automatic, rote one-size-fits-all procedure in ancient coin cleaning because each coin is an individual case different from the next in some respect. Each should be treated according to what it requires. After a light brushing then perhaps - PERHAPS - with this coin I would put on my magnifying eye glasses and take my professional scalpel with a brand new blade and in the tiniest area where the soil is most thickly caked on see if I can begin to loosen the top crusty soil from the coin without touching the surface of the coin. This is delicate work - like surgery. Sometimes my hand is so tense it will tremble and I have to stop and relax. I have an array of tools, mostly home made, like the bamboo skewer that has one end frayed by cutting it with the scalpel a bunch of times and another I ran across a food grater to roughen it up. Those are handy tools for getting in small places. I have made those same types of tools with slimmer wooden objects. Whatever I can find that looks like it will work. I have a couple of chop sticks as well. </p><p><br /></p><p>And this is why getting the attribution of your coin done as early as possible is so useful. You will have a photograph of your attributed coin' at your side as you clean your coin and you'll know what to expect to find and where on your coin as you work on it.</p><p><br /></p><p>[USER=85702]@Nas[/USER] is not incorrect about soap and water, but I say very rarely and maybe after all the crust is removed - maybe. If you go under your soil crust and find a layer of tar substance, i think you will regret having wet it at this point. </p><p><br /></p><p>By the way, there are ways to restore a patina. I want to become proficient in that at some point.</p><p><br /></p><p>I hope this helped.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="LaCointessa, post: 2889520, member: 87186"]Good morning [USER=88628]@CopperGenie[/USER]. Before even deciding to clean a coin, I want to spend some time with it. Really looking closely at it. And sometimes photographing it as you have done here allows a good look at it. Sometimes, though, holding the coin away and not seeing it closely gives a better chance to get an idea about possible attribution. Have you tried to figure out the attribution of this coin yet? if you haven't, you might check here: [url]https://www.tesorillo.com/aes/110/110i.htm[/url] I love this coin already. I've never seen it before. It looks like a double victory but I've never seen a double victory with a VOT before. (but i'm a newby so there's still TONS of reverses I have not seen). The legend on the obverse says IMP CONSTANTINUS PP AVG. And I think it is Constantinus I Magnus (but I am not absolutely positive as I just took a peek). I think your coin is not in horrible condition. It is just crusty and dirty. I say go very slowly. If you are in a rush to clean it, you are the not the person to do the job. (sorry!) (No. Not sorry!) This is a wonderful coin that has great potential I think. If you had to begin to clean it, then it would be a child's first toothbrush dry on the dry coin with the lightest stroke - and stroke in one direction from the interior of the coin outward and let the stroke carry off the edge of the coin. I like to hold the coin perpendicular to the floor so that whatever loosens from the surface of the coin has a chance to fall away and not rest on it. I like to put a piece of white paper underneath to see what I 'catch.' After the first brushing I would study it again before deciding my next step. There really can not be (in my humble opinion) any automatic, rote one-size-fits-all procedure in ancient coin cleaning because each coin is an individual case different from the next in some respect. Each should be treated according to what it requires. After a light brushing then perhaps - PERHAPS - with this coin I would put on my magnifying eye glasses and take my professional scalpel with a brand new blade and in the tiniest area where the soil is most thickly caked on see if I can begin to loosen the top crusty soil from the coin without touching the surface of the coin. This is delicate work - like surgery. Sometimes my hand is so tense it will tremble and I have to stop and relax. I have an array of tools, mostly home made, like the bamboo skewer that has one end frayed by cutting it with the scalpel a bunch of times and another I ran across a food grater to roughen it up. Those are handy tools for getting in small places. I have made those same types of tools with slimmer wooden objects. Whatever I can find that looks like it will work. I have a couple of chop sticks as well. And this is why getting the attribution of your coin done as early as possible is so useful. You will have a photograph of your attributed coin' at your side as you clean your coin and you'll know what to expect to find and where on your coin as you work on it. [USER=85702]@Nas[/USER] is not incorrect about soap and water, but I say very rarely and maybe after all the crust is removed - maybe. If you go under your soil crust and find a layer of tar substance, i think you will regret having wet it at this point. By the way, there are ways to restore a patina. I want to become proficient in that at some point. I hope this helped.[/QUOTE]
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