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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;desertgem, post: 995237, member: 15199&quot;]GDJMSP is correct about what I meant. The chemical reactions are the same. There is no difference or we wouldn&#039;t be having this conversation, PCGS and other TPG would have a test for determining it. Likewise, Time isn&#039;t a determining factor as this can vary by many multiples. There is no reason why AT couldn&#039;t take a long time if utilized methods as such, even longer than a NT that was in a bad environment. SO THERE is NO difference between AT and NT ,other than <b>intent,</b>which can not be determined by looking at a coin. That is why I am in the Market Acceptable/Market Unacceptable group, rather than AT/NT group. People elongate coins, and people carve coins and make love tokens. This is acceptable and often considered art, but tone one yourself and most want to call you a coin doctor and denounce you.&nbsp; If all toned coins sold for less than dipped ones, there would not be this fuss over something one can not verify. Suspect maybe , but not verify. Since there is a difference in price , some want you to think they can tell for sure, and that their coins are all natural. Who can tell for sure? If it is in a PCGS or NGC holder, it is market acceptable.IMO.</p><p><br /></p><p>Jim[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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