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<p>[QUOTE="The_Cave_Troll, post: 521715, member: 1674"]Let me explain this some. The crackout guy knows what he is doing and his reputation preceeds him when he is buying and selling. Therefore when he is selling he has 2 types of coins, his scores (upgrades that are mediocre for the grade usually) and his give-ups, which are usually very strong for the grade, so strong that when he bought it he thought it would upgrade; unfortunately it didn't and he has given up. </p><p><br /></p><p>When he offers his giveups to another crackout dealer then his reputation for crackout success will dictate that he can charge a higher price for those coins because they are PQ and the spreads Jack was talking about come into play. If the upside is great, the downside limited, and the reputation of the crackout guy good then the coin could trade at a significant premium to the "normal" price.</p><p><br /></p><p>This is true of normal dealers selling to crackout guys too. If you have a coin you think is nice for the grade and a crackout guy is looking through your coins and picks one out and asks the price, you know you can charge more because of his reputation for knowing a potential upgrade when he sees one. Remember, these guys aren't usually looking to fill a collector's want list, they are looking for upgrades to wholesale out later, so the numbers for them are a little different.</p><p><br /></p><p>And Hobo's comment about 7-figure profits at the crouckout game are accurate. There are multiple guys in that category, but you gotta be a pretty good grader and master basically all series to work at that level. Jack has mastered a single series, until he decides to master all of them, and especially gold, he simply can't do the volume needed to get there. this is not a knock on him, it is simply a statement to let you know how talented these guys are and how difficult what they do is.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="The_Cave_Troll, post: 521715, member: 1674"]Let me explain this some. The crackout guy knows what he is doing and his reputation preceeds him when he is buying and selling. Therefore when he is selling he has 2 types of coins, his scores (upgrades that are mediocre for the grade usually) and his give-ups, which are usually very strong for the grade, so strong that when he bought it he thought it would upgrade; unfortunately it didn't and he has given up. When he offers his giveups to another crackout dealer then his reputation for crackout success will dictate that he can charge a higher price for those coins because they are PQ and the spreads Jack was talking about come into play. If the upside is great, the downside limited, and the reputation of the crackout guy good then the coin could trade at a significant premium to the "normal" price. This is true of normal dealers selling to crackout guys too. If you have a coin you think is nice for the grade and a crackout guy is looking through your coins and picks one out and asks the price, you know you can charge more because of his reputation for knowing a potential upgrade when he sees one. Remember, these guys aren't usually looking to fill a collector's want list, they are looking for upgrades to wholesale out later, so the numbers for them are a little different. And Hobo's comment about 7-figure profits at the crouckout game are accurate. There are multiple guys in that category, but you gotta be a pretty good grader and master basically all series to work at that level. Jack has mastered a single series, until he decides to master all of them, and especially gold, he simply can't do the volume needed to get there. this is not a knock on him, it is simply a statement to let you know how talented these guys are and how difficult what they do is.[/QUOTE]
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