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Message:: [QUOTE="GoldCoinLover, post: 662022, member: 4336"]Everyone is still learning, heh. I remember in my authentication, conservation and grading seminiar I took at the ANA phoenix show, the guy next to  me showed Brian a coin, I believe it was MS65. He said it was MS67, a 2 point different. Brian worked at NCS for awhile, before he became a grader for NGC and an authenticator. He trained the secret service..I think he was better at authentication than anything. He could immediately  look at a coin and tell me where the depressions, spikes, etc are, even if they were real faint. He was REAL good at this. It's really all subjective. I bought a raw $5 indian at a reputable shop in las vegas called "Sahara coins", before it went down hill. There was a former PCGS grader there who graded it AU55. This was back when they had good deals and not overpriced junk. Well I sent it into PCGS, and it graded with no problems AU58. Before that it was in an old style ANACS holder AU58. Personally, I have always studied authentication , not grading. I know the different grades, but my grading skills are zero, zilch, none. My dream job would be to someday work in a coin shop, but without years of grading experience that is a hard thing to do. I have the PCGS guide to grading and counterfeit detection and I think I'm going to study it.[/QUOTE]