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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;ernstk, post: 4847210, member: 112998&quot;]I think the only and only way to know a coin is genuine is when it has original patina. even though some try to fake patina it is still clear in many cases if patina is fake to me. But a cleaned coin is very very dangerous to buy. this is my 2 cent advice you take it or leave it up to you but those high end collectors who love cleaned and shiny ancient coins are taking a huge risk to end up with lots of fakes in their collection. Here is an example of a fake patina. I can tell the patina is made by sand and glue. But for many this might look very genuine patina <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1170252[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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