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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;ernstk, post: 4847208, member: 112998&quot;]I was about to say that there is a machine called spark laser which you mentioned. But I don&#039;t understand what you mean by &#039;scorched black and not good for forging coins&#039;? I know for a fact they use spark as of now. because a counterfeiter from Lebanon&nbsp; told me there are circles in Lebanon currently use spark machine to make high precision identical die to genuine coins and use them to hand strike a coin on ancient flans. this leaves no method useful. the style is right , there is no casting evidence as it is hand struck, XRF fails as they use ancient flans.&nbsp; I cant think of any method to detect such things. I asked the guy how someone would know these are fake? You know what was his answer? Lol he said only the faker who made them know. and he even said these forgers take pride when they see their coins are getting high bids in auction houses they get immense pleasure of how good their art is loool its disappointing for us as collectors makes me quit this alltogether. Although,&nbsp; if you own a good fake that auction houses and no one is able to prove it&#039;s fake,&nbsp; then at least you won&#039;t lose money and can sell it later but you cant for sure call it genuine. You have to always wonder about it which reduce the pleasure of having something made in ancient times but from financial perspective you are ok as others also won&#039;t know it&#039;s fake.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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