How Can You "Recolor" a Lincoln?

Let me resurrect this thread. Let's see if it still works. This was the only thread I could find on recolored.

So I submitted 3 Lincoln cents to ANACS, a 44, 44D & 46D. I know they have been in my album untouched since I was a kid, 50+ years. I never touched them, dipped them or cleaned them. IMO they were beautifully toned coins, that toned naturally over time. All 3 coins are coming back "Recolored" 60 Details. Very disappointed!

Question: Do you believe ANACS is saying (by their description) that these coins were intentionally toned or manipulated in some way?

 

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Do you understand the difference between "recolor" and "STRIP or CLEAN? The post is about

 

That is basically what Deller's Darkener is and you need to practice using it before you ruin a good coin. Also be sure to remove all traces of the stuff or .

 

There are some chemicals commonly used to conserve copper that if not neutralized and they come in contact w/acetone it will turn the coin blue.

 

Nope, they are saying the coins don't look natural TO THEM. This happens all the time at all the TPGS who do not know the actual history (as you do) of the coins.

 

Hey @Insider - thanks for responding to @Just Carl but the guys hasn't been here since Mar 2014

Can you respond to mine?

 

Got it. Thanks for that!

 

Many large cent collectors know how to turn a chemically-stripped, orange-pink coin back to brown naturally. The method is in the "old-time" literature.

 

SUCKS! Do you have some pictures?

ANACS needs to stop using that term, I've seen a lot of slabs labeled "recolored"....I can't stand that term to describe market unacceptable toning.

 

Amusing. The only person here with more numismatic experience than JustCarl is Doug, and they may be equivalent.

No, they're just saying they don't know for sure it's "natural."

This would be a good time to contemplate that there is no broadly accepted definition of "natural" toning. Kinda makes it difficult to accept someone else's opinion, doesn't it?

 

You know, I was just looking thru my picture inventory. I thought I did but I guess I didn't before I submitted them. I should have, I usually do. They should arrive within the next day or two. I just hope I'll be able to get decent pictures thru the slabs. I'll post them back here when I get them. Thanks for the feedback!

 

Yes, live and learn I guess. I probably should have posted pics here first for your opinions. I just never guessed they would have questioned the toning on these things. Thanks.

 

Sorry @jallengomez I'm taking over your thread. Don't worry, I'll give it back when I'm done.

 

Trouble is, even "our" opinion - not like we'd agree - doesn't really have a bearing on "their" opinion. Heck, they don't agree with themselves.

I'd bet that I would probably feel the toning on your coins was acceptable.

 

I posted this coin on here a few years ago and most people called me a liar or that I changed the light angle to make it look different. The story is I bought the 1931 S raw, and for some reason lightly rubbed a spot on the front, and it made it look pink, so I rubbed a little more to even it out until the whole obverse was pink looking. I figured it was ruined, so I put it back in the holder and back in my binder. The very next day I took it back out, and it had mostly recolored itself. Don't know how or why, but I was happy, and immediately sold it on ebay.





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NOTE: I have never seen an artificially toned coin called "recolored." AFAIK all the TPGS use :

Details "Recolored" to describe a coin (usually copper) that has toned back; yet shows evidence of the underlying artificially chemical colored surface - usually shades of pink or orange.

Details "Artificial Toning" needs no explanation.

With experience, recoloring is usually a black/white thing. AT is a hit and miss "guess." that is covered by "market acceptability."

 

I used some darkener stuff I got on ebay, I think it was the one mentioned. I didn't have much luck with it. Are you supposed to heat the coin with a glob on it? In the oven? I think I left it overnight and it had no great effect

 

It's hard to believe nothing happened overnight. Usually I can see a change in a few minutes. I only use the stuff on fresh scratches or "mechanically conserved" (I'll leave that to your imagination ) small areas. Heat speeds reactions (pick a common everyday source). I've never used the oven so give it a try and let me know how it worked. It takes time for the "color to set." Don't forget to remove all traces of the darkener.

 

Thanks for tips. You're probably right, I may have left it on for a much shorter time period and just got impatient. I will test it out a bit more. I'm sure I got some coins that need some covering up

 

Well, maybe you're right. But from where I sit, I would trust your opinions more then my own.