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<p>[QUOTE="imrich, post: 1704421, member: 22331"]<b>Questionable Grading Purpose?</b></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>I believe you'll find that the original intent of TPG was to honorably evaluate the condition of a coin relative to published standards of the A.N.A.. As time elapsed, some tried to maintain those standards in grading, while others relented to the pressures of dealers/"investors", seemingly deviating to new unspecified "Market" standards. These new standard coins condition can vary many grades from the original published standards, and even in a gross error condition have a grade on something not a genuine coin. The new grading standards appear to be a function of coin scarcity/uniqueness related to demand for a product normally unaffordable to novice "collectors". </b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>Having viewed expensive quality "copies" produced by modern replication processes on original production equipment, submitted to TPG for authentification, being returned as "</b><i><font face="arial">Questionable Authenticity</font><b>",</b> </i><b>I'm not certain that TPG can even assure a "guarantee of genuineness": </b><a href="http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=4486460" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=4486460" rel="nofollow">http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=4486460</a></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>I've been a party to coins being certified "cleaned" by a stringent "old school" TPG, submitted to a "Market" grading TPG, realizing a "Mint State" grade. I suspect many viewing this forum have had/known similar experiences. Regardless, I have shown TPG coins without a "cleaned" designation that I believe would be adjudicated as "altered state" coins. I believe the condition of questionable certification denies the argument that "</b><span style="color: #FF0000">properly cleaned coins are undetectable</span><b>". </b></p><p><b><br /></b></p><p><b>JMHO </b>:thumb:[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="imrich, post: 1704421, member: 22331"][b]Questionable Grading Purpose?[/b] [B] I believe you'll find that the original intent of TPG was to honorably evaluate the condition of a coin relative to published standards of the A.N.A.. As time elapsed, some tried to maintain those standards in grading, while others relented to the pressures of dealers/"investors", seemingly deviating to new unspecified "Market" standards. These new standard coins condition can vary many grades from the original published standards, and even in a gross error condition have a grade on something not a genuine coin. The new grading standards appear to be a function of coin scarcity/uniqueness related to demand for a product normally unaffordable to novice "collectors". Having viewed expensive quality "copies" produced by modern replication processes on original production equipment, submitted to TPG for authentification, being returned as "[/B][I][FONT=arial]Questionable Authenticity[/FONT][B]",[/B] [/I][B]I'm not certain that TPG can even assure a "guarantee of genuineness": [/B][URL]http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=4486460[/URL] [B] I've been a party to coins being certified "cleaned" by a stringent "old school" TPG, submitted to a "Market" grading TPG, realizing a "Mint State" grade. I suspect many viewing this forum have had/known similar experiences. Regardless, I have shown TPG coins without a "cleaned" designation that I believe would be adjudicated as "altered state" coins. I believe the condition of questionable certification denies the argument that "[/B][COLOR=#FF0000]properly cleaned coins are undetectable[/COLOR][B]". JMHO [/B]:thumb:[/QUOTE]
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