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<p>[QUOTE="Ed Snible, post: 3235962, member: 82322"]Perhaps we can turn this into a coin thread, showing coins that lack a consensus date range. Here is a bronze of Amphipolis in Macedon:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]846044[/ATTACH] </p><p>Macedon, Amphipolis, AE22, 11.26g</p><p>Oobv: Winged Medusa head in three-quarters or facing view with curly hair, serpents in hair, all within circle of beads.</p><p>Rev: ΑΜΦΙΠ[Ο]-ΛΕΙΤΩΝ; Athena holding Nike within border of dots.</p><p>Ref: <i>SNG ANS</i> 147-8, Lindgren <i>Europe</i> 937, <i>SNG Copenhagen</i> 85-86 </p><p><br /></p><p>Barclay Head, keeper at the British Museum put the coin in the “168 BC to Imperial” range writing <i>BMC Macedonia </i>in 1879. George MacDonald, curator at the Hunterian in Glasgow, dated to “Imperial Times” (meaning no earlier than 44 BC?) writing <i>Catalogue of Greek Coins in the Hunterian Collection</i> in 1899.</p><p><br /></p><p>A bunch of catalogs were written and included this type using the dates from BMC (e.g. Katharina Martin, <i>Sammlung Köhler-Osbahr</i> (2003); H. C. Lindgren, <i>Europe</i> (1989); Serge Boutin <i>Pozzi</i> (1979)).</p><p><br /></p><p>Other catalogs used dates from MacDonald (e.g. Nancy Waggoner, <i>SNG ANS</i> (1987); Nils Breitenstein, <i>SNG Copenhagen</i> (1943); Balázs Kapossy, <i>SNG Switzerland: Righetti</i> (1993)).</p><p><br /></p><p>I suspect a better range is 187-158 BC. Why? The unusual thing about this coin is the orientation of the inscription. I can only think of one other Amphipolis with that orientation: <a href="https://cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=126651" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=126651" rel="nofollow">https://cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=126651</a> . The CNG cataloger dates that shield/scorpion coin to circa 187-168/7 BC. The obverse of that coin, a shield with crescents as boss, is a match for royal issues of king Perseus struck 178-168 BC. It’s reasonable to assume Amphipolis used the crescent boss shield obverse type during Perseus’ reign.</p><p><br /></p><p>These Medusa bronzes are thick, unlike other Amphipolis bronzes, which may mean their metal content was important. Amphipolis was forbidden by the Roman occupation to strike silver coins between 168 and 158 BC so may have struck heavier bronzes than usual then.</p><p><br /></p><p>I propose these coins were struck at the end of the Macedonian kingdom period or very early in the Roman era.</p><p><br /></p><p>I came up with a range completely different than Head's and MacDonald's, but at least I can give two reasons for proposing my range. They never gave their reasons.</p><p><br /></p><p>Post any coins that have different dates in different catalogs.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ed Snible, post: 3235962, member: 82322"]Perhaps we can turn this into a coin thread, showing coins that lack a consensus date range. Here is a bronze of Amphipolis in Macedon: [ATTACH=full]846044[/ATTACH] Macedon, Amphipolis, AE22, 11.26g Oobv: Winged Medusa head in three-quarters or facing view with curly hair, serpents in hair, all within circle of beads. Rev: ΑΜΦΙΠ[Ο]-ΛΕΙΤΩΝ; Athena holding Nike within border of dots. Ref: [I]SNG ANS[/I] 147-8, Lindgren [I]Europe[/I] 937, [I]SNG Copenhagen[/I] 85-86 Barclay Head, keeper at the British Museum put the coin in the “168 BC to Imperial” range writing [I]BMC Macedonia [/I]in 1879. George MacDonald, curator at the Hunterian in Glasgow, dated to “Imperial Times” (meaning no earlier than 44 BC?) writing [I]Catalogue of Greek Coins in the Hunterian Collection[/I] in 1899. A bunch of catalogs were written and included this type using the dates from BMC (e.g. Katharina Martin, [I]Sammlung Köhler-Osbahr[/I] (2003); H. C. Lindgren, [I]Europe[/I] (1989); Serge Boutin [I]Pozzi[/I] (1979)). Other catalogs used dates from MacDonald (e.g. Nancy Waggoner, [I]SNG ANS[/I] (1987); Nils Breitenstein, [I]SNG Copenhagen[/I] (1943); Balázs Kapossy, [I]SNG Switzerland: Righetti[/I] (1993)). I suspect a better range is 187-158 BC. Why? The unusual thing about this coin is the orientation of the inscription. I can only think of one other Amphipolis with that orientation: [url]https://cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=126651[/url] . The CNG cataloger dates that shield/scorpion coin to circa 187-168/7 BC. The obverse of that coin, a shield with crescents as boss, is a match for royal issues of king Perseus struck 178-168 BC. It’s reasonable to assume Amphipolis used the crescent boss shield obverse type during Perseus’ reign. These Medusa bronzes are thick, unlike other Amphipolis bronzes, which may mean their metal content was important. Amphipolis was forbidden by the Roman occupation to strike silver coins between 168 and 158 BC so may have struck heavier bronzes than usual then. I propose these coins were struck at the end of the Macedonian kingdom period or very early in the Roman era. I came up with a range completely different than Head's and MacDonald's, but at least I can give two reasons for proposing my range. They never gave their reasons. Post any coins that have different dates in different catalogs.[/QUOTE]
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