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<p>[QUOTE="Oldhoopster, post: 8160995, member: 84179"]It's not an improperly mixed alloy for a couple reasons</p><p><br /></p><p>* an improperly mixed alloy starts with a randomly shaped region in the ingot. </p><p>* these regions get elongated during the rolling process, but since the shapes are random, the areas will still vary in thickness and location. You can see how the shape varies on the 2 examples others have posted</p><p>* your coin has parallel lines of consistent thicknesses. That is increadibly unlikely to occur from a randomly shaped region in the melt.</p><p>* also your coin has similar lines on both sides, yet the outer layers of the clad come from diff feedstock with the copper sandwiched in the middle. Cents and nickels are rolled from 1 ingot which makes it possible for the improperly mixed regions to be visible on both sides</p><p><br /></p><p>A better explanation is that dirty rollers pressed oil/residue just slightly into the surface of the strip. Over time, this contamination can tone differently than the rest of the coin. These have been called roller marks, but traditionally roller marks have defined by sites like error-ref as being slightly recessed due to something adhering to the rollers. That's why I prefer the term dirty rollers. </p><p><br /></p><p>I believe this is the same mechanism that caused the parallel striations found on some 1979-81 cents that are some think are woodies.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Oldhoopster, post: 8160995, member: 84179"]It's not an improperly mixed alloy for a couple reasons * an improperly mixed alloy starts with a randomly shaped region in the ingot. * these regions get elongated during the rolling process, but since the shapes are random, the areas will still vary in thickness and location. You can see how the shape varies on the 2 examples others have posted * your coin has parallel lines of consistent thicknesses. That is increadibly unlikely to occur from a randomly shaped region in the melt. * also your coin has similar lines on both sides, yet the outer layers of the clad come from diff feedstock with the copper sandwiched in the middle. Cents and nickels are rolled from 1 ingot which makes it possible for the improperly mixed regions to be visible on both sides A better explanation is that dirty rollers pressed oil/residue just slightly into the surface of the strip. Over time, this contamination can tone differently than the rest of the coin. These have been called roller marks, but traditionally roller marks have defined by sites like error-ref as being slightly recessed due to something adhering to the rollers. That's why I prefer the term dirty rollers. I believe this is the same mechanism that caused the parallel striations found on some 1979-81 cents that are some think are woodies.[/QUOTE]
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