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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Troodon, post: 1634138, member: 4626&quot;]Finally someone who gets it.&nbsp; I had a similar argument with someone who was trying to argue that raising the minimum driving age to 18 would be worth it, because of the decreased number of fatal car accidents that would result.&nbsp; So would raising it to 25, or 50, or 100, or banning driving altogether.&nbsp; Just because something would produce a positive result is not reason enough to approve it; ALL consequences, positive AND negative, have to be considered.</p><p><br /></p><p>And personally I&#039;m in favor of preserving my rights under the 4th and 5th amendments even if I have nothing to hide.&nbsp; I don&#039;t own a gun or have had the government try to quarter troops in my house recently, but I still want those rights preserved too.&nbsp; Protection from unreasonable search and seizure (4th amendment) is not a right meant only to protect people who are guilty or suspected of being guilty; it&#039;s to protect the innocent too.&nbsp; So is the right to not be deprived of your property without due process (one of the rights under the 5th amendment, among a few others).&nbsp; If you own something, you have the right to do with it as you please, one of the basic property rights that you possess anywhere private property rights are recognized.&nbsp; The ability to sell your own private property is a basic right you possess by virtue of being alive, not because the government chooses to give it to you.&nbsp; Read the Constitution some time; that&#039;s the basic idea behind it, that the rights mentioned are something you possess by birth, not because the government sees fit to grant them to you.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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