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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 384408, member: 112&quot;]Toad I understand the difference, but with all due respect I&#039;m not so you do or you wouldn&#039;t be making these comments.</p><p><br /></p><p>But just so you know, scratches on a planchet are obliterated when the coin is struck unless they are very deep, and seldom are they ever that deep. Yes there scratches on some dies but very few and they usually only show up on coins struck with fresh dies because the flowing metal soon obliterates light scratches on the die as well. That&#039;s why dies are polished, to remove flow lines and make them smooth again. But that sometimes results in die polish lines.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now all of that being said, the lines that can be seen up close next to the edge of the devices in the picture on the right are flow lines or die polish lines - not scratches. But in the picture on the right, there are plenty of light scratches visible in the fields and on the devices. It is those lines that make me feel that the coin has been cleaned. Although there are a few visble in the right pic as well.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now, since the OP says that he got the coin out of circulation it is quite possible that those scratches are the result of being carried in somebody&#039;s pocket. It is also quite possible that somebody too a cloth and wiped this coin off at some point in the last 12 years as the coin was in circulation. </p><p><br /></p><p>When you say that a coin has been harshly cleaned, it doesn&#039;t always mean that some collector cleaned it - it often happens just as a result of a coin being in circulation. They get dropped in a mud puddle and then wiped off - anything like that. But the end result is the same - the coin has the tell tale scratches of having been harshly cleaned and thus it is called that by collectors.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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