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<p>[QUOTE="imrich, post: 2601714, member: 22331"]Unfortunately, it isn't only the dealers/buyers/sellers that don't have a grasp of grading uniformity, the same is generally true of the TPG.</p><p><br /></p><p>For several years we have been doing an independent study of actual grading standards between high volume dealers who regularly submit expensive coins to the 2 "top tier" TPG, and the disparities of the grading between those TPG.</p><p><br /></p><p>The dealers will always closely inspect the coins which have been removed from one TPGs slab for submission to the other, stating the expected grade, offering that the coin shouldn't be submitted as it is only an AU, or it has been cleaned.</p><p><br /></p><p>I virtually never submit a coin less than MS unless it's a semi-key, and only submit a "cleaned" stated coin unless I believe it's acceptable to the 2nd TPG. The high-volume dealers are shipping $30K-60K of coins at a time and are fearful of a singular cleaned or AU coin, diminishing the grades for the entire lot, and reject any coin of believed condition.</p><p><br /></p><p>The high-volume dealers appear to be correct about half the time, as the coins they reject are just submitted through a low volume dealer (e.g. 10 coins or less) to determine both their accuracy and that of the respective secondary TPG. The 2 TPG generally don't concur but ~30% of the time. Their grades have varied regularly 1-3 grades, dependent on the TPG, coin scarcity, and some predictable factors for a specific TPG.</p><p><br /></p><p>The value difference disparity between dealers and TPG for a given coin can vary as much as several thousand dollars.</p><p><br /></p><p>Based on past and current independent studies, I believe that they have shown there isn't adequate standards/uniformity for anyone to protect an investment in Numismatic items. It doesn't appear that anyone can accurately proclaim the value of a collection. I find that horrible!</p><p><br /></p><p>I found the following article interesting:</p><p><a href="http://www.coinweek.com/education/coin-grading/how-will-coin-collectors-interpret-certified-coin-grades-in-the-future/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.coinweek.com/education/coin-grading/how-will-coin-collectors-interpret-certified-coin-grades-in-the-future/" rel="nofollow">http://www.coinweek.com/education/coin-grading/how-will-coin-collectors-interpret-certified-coin-grades-in-the-future/</a></p><p><br /></p><p>JMHO[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="imrich, post: 2601714, member: 22331"]Unfortunately, it isn't only the dealers/buyers/sellers that don't have a grasp of grading uniformity, the same is generally true of the TPG. For several years we have been doing an independent study of actual grading standards between high volume dealers who regularly submit expensive coins to the 2 "top tier" TPG, and the disparities of the grading between those TPG. The dealers will always closely inspect the coins which have been removed from one TPGs slab for submission to the other, stating the expected grade, offering that the coin shouldn't be submitted as it is only an AU, or it has been cleaned. I virtually never submit a coin less than MS unless it's a semi-key, and only submit a "cleaned" stated coin unless I believe it's acceptable to the 2nd TPG. The high-volume dealers are shipping $30K-60K of coins at a time and are fearful of a singular cleaned or AU coin, diminishing the grades for the entire lot, and reject any coin of believed condition. The high-volume dealers appear to be correct about half the time, as the coins they reject are just submitted through a low volume dealer (e.g. 10 coins or less) to determine both their accuracy and that of the respective secondary TPG. The 2 TPG generally don't concur but ~30% of the time. Their grades have varied regularly 1-3 grades, dependent on the TPG, coin scarcity, and some predictable factors for a specific TPG. The value difference disparity between dealers and TPG for a given coin can vary as much as several thousand dollars. Based on past and current independent studies, I believe that they have shown there isn't adequate standards/uniformity for anyone to protect an investment in Numismatic items. It doesn't appear that anyone can accurately proclaim the value of a collection. I find that horrible! I found the following article interesting: [url]http://www.coinweek.com/education/coin-grading/how-will-coin-collectors-interpret-certified-coin-grades-in-the-future/[/url] JMHO[/QUOTE]
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